Bug 399197 - [Feature Request] Add toggle box to change "Move to trash" to "Delete" globally
Summary: [Feature Request] Add toggle box to change "Move to trash" to "Delete" globally
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: dolphin
Classification: Applications
Component: general (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: 18.08.1
Platform: Arch Linux Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Dolphin Bug Assignee
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Reported: 2018-09-28 21:58 UTC by Lukas Sabota
Modified: 2018-09-29 18:36 UTC (History)
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Description Lukas Sabota 2018-09-28 21:58:52 UTC
In dolphin, shift+delete is used to delete instead of moving the file to the trash.

It would be great if there was an option in dolphin that changed the default behavior.  Perhaps a toggle option could be added to "Configure Dolphin -> Trash" that gives the user an option to prefer deletion instead of moving to the trash.  Maybe a toggle option like this?

[ ] Delete files by default instead of moving to trash 


Thanks again for everyone for their efforts on KDE and plasma
Comment 1 Lukas Sabota 2018-09-28 22:05:04 UTC
A user in #plasma IRC has pointed out to me that within "Dolphin Preferences -> Services" there is a "Trash" "service" that is shown in right click file menu.

A user could potentially change the "Delete" key mapping to actually delete instead of move to trash and enable this service...

But I'm still convinced that a checkbox would be helpful to toggle this default behavior.

I realize that UX can be very subjective so I want to bring this up to the dolphin team at large.  I suppose this is more of a UX idea than a "bug"
Comment 2 Christoph Feck 2018-09-28 23:11:58 UTC
It is already possible to add an 'Delete' entry to the context menu:
Configure > Dolphin > Services > Delete
Comment 3 Lukas Sabota 2018-09-28 23:22:33 UTC
(In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #2)
> It is already possible to add an 'Delete' entry to the context menu:
> Configure > Dolphin > Services > Delete

You're right.  That's one place.  The other is the "DEL" key bind can be changed from "Move to trash" to "delete".  In order to change the default behavior in general (from the keyboard and the context menu), you must change it within two places.

There could potentially be some UI dolphin preferences ("trash" submenu") to change the default behavior of the context menu and the DEL key from "Move to trash" to "delete".  This could even potentially be UI without introducing a new configuration option

I'm just throwing this out as an idea - I do realize that you can make this change in two places (services and keybinds) to do this, but it could be a useful addition to the "trash" dolphin submenu.
Comment 4 Nate Graham 2018-09-29 04:46:20 UTC
As Christoph mentioned, the requested functionality is already available. While it's true that a toggle in the main UI somewhere would make using it a bit easier, I'm not sure this would actually be desirable since the Delete action is far more destructive than using the trash. Generally we don't go out of our way to advertise destructive options; it's too easy for non-advanced users to get into trouble with them. For advanced users who prefer always deleting, the requested functionality is all there. Maybe not in the easiest possible way to turn it on, but hey, anything good's worth working a bit for, right? :)
Comment 5 Lukas Sabota 2018-09-29 18:36:07 UTC
Completely understand with this RESOLVED INTENTIONAL

SHIFT+DEL is apparently somewhat ubiquitous among linux DE (GNOME at least).

Thanks for the consideration, polite explanation, and thank you to the KDE team in general for everyone's hard work.