Bug 391187 - Crashes and wishes are reported with 'normal' severity, causing extra work for triagers
Summary: Crashes and wishes are reported with 'normal' severity, causing extra work fo...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: drkonqi
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unassigned bugs mailing-list
URL:
Keywords:
: 393346 394108 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2018-02-27 23:13 UTC by Christoph Feck
Modified: 2018-06-11 14:50 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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2018-04-21 08:27 UTC, wazhai
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Description Christoph Feck 2018-02-27 23:13:00 UTC
Since about yesterday, all crash reports are reported as 'normal' bugs. Not sure if there is a change in DrKonqi or in Bugzilla.
Comment 1 Ben Cooksley 2018-02-28 00:25:40 UTC
The 'crash' type is a part of "Importance" which it was agreed that non-contributors shouldn't have the right to set. Therefore any attempt by Dr Konqi to set this will be ignored by Bugzilla.
Comment 2 Christoph Feck 2018-03-15 03:55:58 UTC
It was agreed where?

Sorry, this breaks DrKonqi backtrace searches. Also, people start reporting their wishes as "normal" bugs, and I have to go through them and change the severity and usually also the title (because they add "[Wish]" there instead).
Comment 3 Ben Cooksley 2018-03-16 05:58:54 UTC
The discussion took place on the kde-devel and plasma-devel mailing lists.
Please see http://kde.6490.n7.nabble.com/Re-Closing-old-Plasma-4-bugs-td1674858.html

It was agreed in that thread that Importance (priority and severity) should be restricted.
Comment 4 Christoph Feck 2018-03-16 07:58:29 UTC
I indeed remember reading this thread, but did not see these consequences. As I understood it, we wanted to limit additional abilities for new triagers, but never remove existing abilities.

Nate, can you clarify if the issues raised in comment #2 are intended? It is odd that people can close any bug, but cannot even set the severity of their own bugs.
Comment 5 Ben Cooksley 2018-03-17 07:42:39 UTC
An unfortunate consequence of how Bugzilla works is that the ability to change the Importance also impacts on the ability to set the Importance of a bug in the first instance (as Bugzilla treats this as a change from the default values)
Comment 6 Christoph Feck 2018-03-30 13:58:29 UTC
Since there does not seem any solution to this, I re-titled the ticket.
Comment 7 wazhai 2018-04-19 12:36:57 UTC
In that case, users that don't have the right to change the severity shouldn't have the ability to attempt to set it when filing a bug through the "Enter Bug" form on website. I was very confused about why someone had to fix my severity even though I had (attempted to) set it correctly.
Comment 8 Ben Cooksley 2018-04-21 05:58:42 UTC
*** Bug 393346 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Ben Cooksley 2018-04-21 06:01:38 UTC
Can you please post a screenshot and the link to the page which offers that so I can investigate?

@Christoph: In regards to getting this changed, as the community has set the policy here it is not for me to overturn it. If you would like this overturned, please respond to that thread and we can go about getting the policy amended.

I agree that restricting it (at least for initial creation on severity, for the normal/crash/wishlist states) appears to have had unintended consequences.
Comment 10 wazhai 2018-04-21 08:27:33 UTC
Created attachment 112151 [details]
screenshot

(In reply to Ben Cooksley from comment #9)
> Can you please post a screenshot and the link to the page which offers that
> so I can investigate?

> users that don't have the right to change the severity shouldn't have the
> ability to attempt to set it when filing a bug through the "Enter Bug" form
> on website.

URL: https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=elisa

Here is a screenshot of my new bug page for all available products.

This is a separate issue but I decided to comment here since it's related, however I could file a separate bug report for this.
Comment 11 Ben Cooksley 2018-04-21 09:21:12 UTC
Thanks. I've investigated and it looks like the bug entry form doesn't do any of the permission checks which the rest of Bugzilla does :(

We'll defer this for now pending the result of the community review which I assume is going to be requested regarding this?
Comment 12 Christoph Feck 2018-05-10 23:49:41 UTC
*** Bug 394108 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Christoph Feck 2018-05-10 23:51:25 UTC
Nate, any opinion on comment #4?
Comment 14 Nate Graham 2018-05-11 01:31:37 UTC
Before the change, did users previously have the ability to set the Severity? Is that why this was working before?
Comment 15 Christoph Feck 2018-05-11 02:47:30 UTC
Yes, users could specify a severity when reporting tickets, both via DrKonqi and the web interface.
Comment 16 Nate Graham 2018-05-11 14:57:21 UTC
Maybe we could return to that, then? I don't recall it being a major problem before we removed the privilege.
Comment 17 Christoph Feck 2018-05-11 18:30:25 UTC
Yes, please. That was the original intention of this ticket.

Sysadmins did not want to re-introduce the permissions after the discussion from comment #3; that's why I was asking for clarification of said discussion and changed the title later.

I have changed the title again to reflect both (common) issues, crashes and wishes.

Ben, or would you prefer a new phab ticket?
Comment 18 Nate Graham 2018-05-11 20:32:27 UTC
Yeah, I don't think anyone ever intended to block DrKonqi from reporting crash severity correctly. That was unintentional fallout from the permissions change for the severity field. If we can't fix just that issue, I would support rolling back the permissions change for the severity field to un-break DrKonqi.
Comment 19 Ben Cooksley 2018-05-11 20:37:32 UTC
Please note that as the change to permissions was approved by the broader community (either via explicit approval, or through silence, in a public mailing list discussion) then further changes to those permissions must be approved by the broader community as well.

This means you'll need to reopen the thread on kde-devel.

While I don't expect there to be any opposition to the request change (to permit that specific item to be set on creation at a minimum) the broader community still has to be consulted as the broader community were the ones who requested and approved it being restricted in the first place.
Comment 20 Christoph Feck 2018-05-11 21:06:50 UTC
Replied there.
Comment 21 Christoph Feck 2018-06-11 14:50:51 UTC
This was recently fixed.