Hi, inspired by (and very happy about) the release of "KDE Frameworks 5.37.0" introducing new standard shortcuts for "previous/next tab", I would like to propose the following "standard shortcuts", too: 1. Switch One Desktop to the Left/Right/Up/Down > Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right/Up/Down 2. Window One Desktop to the Left/Right/Up/Down > Shift+Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right/Up/Down Reason: Many other desktop environments (and also window managers) use the same shortcuts to achieve these actions. Therefore, new users would feel more at home when trying out Plasma the first time. Long-established users would benefit, too, because the do not need to setup (non-existing) shortcuts any more (when e.g. installing Plasma on a new machine). Please consider ... thanks a lot for your great work & regards, Gerhard
Unfortunately these shortcuts conflict with existing shortcuts in Yakuake and KEdit/Kate/K-anything-using-the-KTextEditor-class. You can see for yourself with https://lxr.kde.org/search?_filestring=&_string=CTRL.*ALT.*Up Personally I'm always in favor of changing default shortcuts if the change results in something better and more consistent overall (IMHO of course) but many KDE developers are understandably much more conservative in this matter. You'll need to make a pretty strong case to convince them.
Hi, @Nate, thanks for your comment. It's a pity... Especially for the particular "KDE programs" using these shortcuts... Because this means that if anyone uses such a program on (nearly any) other desktop, the shortcuts are *not going to work*, because the window manager in place usually gets precedence! (Is this case strong enough? ;-) ) AFAIKS, there is only a small number of programs using those (defacto standard) shortcuts. Therefore, I still think it would be worth trying to enforce sane default shortcuts for the desktop. Regards, Gerhard
I'm with you, and am currently attempting to change somr shortcuts to expose window tiling by default. See https://phabricator.kde.org/D11377 I'll see if I can make the case.
Hi Nate, you're my personal hero! ;-) I also have been missing (sane) default shortcuts for "window tiling" for a long time. (But my intention was first to wait til my wishes above will get fulfilled, before going to address this one.) I really appreciate the proposal for the "window tiling" shortcuts -- it reminds me strongly of the Cinnamon desktop. Regarding this, I think that the Linux-Mint creators did a great job with Cinnamon. I'm addicted to the the Plasma desktop, but the Cinnamon guys really did/do great defaults ... helping new/switching users (because when designing keyboard shortcuts, they oriented themselves by other existing desktops). Thx & regards, Gerhard
Glad you're happy. :) I agree on the subject of Cinnamon: it's a towering edifice of good defaults. I aspire to help KDE Plasma reach that same level.
Default shortcuts for switching between virtual desktops were just added in https://cgit.kde.org/kwin.git/commit/?id=3bc10be3bba3558c80287a86969eada5b88d09a0.
Yeah, thanks! :-)
With that done moving is the same as 418015 There is a wider task about shortcuts https://phabricator.kde.org/T11520 I don't think this bug brings anything else.
The default shortcuts could be "Meta+Ctrl+<Arrow key>" to switch desktops, and "Meta+Ctrl+Shift+<Arrow key>" to move windows to another desktop. Looking at KDE Neon, "Meta+Ctrl+Shift+<Arrow key>" shortcuts are already assigned by default and enabled. "Meta+Ctrl+<Arrow key>" are also assigned by default, but not enabled, however. It would be nice if they were enabled by default.