Bug 385635 - verification appears to be via checksum comparison rather than actual data comparison
Summary: verification appears to be via checksum comparison rather than actual data co...
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: k3b
Classification: Applications
Component: Verfication (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Debian stable Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: k3b developers
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Reported: 2017-10-12 00:38 UTC by zcw913
Modified: 2022-12-10 05:15 UTC (History)
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Description zcw913 2017-10-12 00:38:39 UTC
version is 2.0.2 (I am in the process of burning the latest Debian DVDs for an upgrade)

Checksum comparison seems a rather dubious way of verifying a burn and gains you nothing in performance:

chrisw@acer-Aspire-5610:~$ time cat /dev/sr0 >/dev/null

real    8m51.207s
user    0m0.128s
sys     0m10.596s
chrisw@acer-Aspire-5610:~$ time md5sum /dev/sr0
9c8951b69992c0a14821da030f27198d  /dev/sr0

real    8m49.449s
user    0m29.040s
sys     0m9.092s
chrisw@acer-Aspire-5610:~$ time cmp /dev/sr0 '/work/Debian 9.1.0/firmware-9.1.0-i386-DVD-1.iso' 

real    8m49.058s
user    0m32.916s
sys     0m20.336s
chrisw@acer-Aspire-5610:~$

Checksum(s) can still be calculated, but, I think it's important to do a proper read back check.

A graph of the read speed would also be helpful in showing if the burned disc has any bad spots.
Comment 1 Leslie Zhai 2017-10-13 03:02:10 UTC
Hi zcw913,

v2.0.2 was not be maintained any more, please use K3b v17.08 https://github.com/KDE/k3b

Regards,
Leslie Zhai
Comment 2 zcw913 2017-10-18 11:07:50 UTC
You've got some problems wrt to what you've got on K3B on the internet:

1) the first thing I did before submitting the bug report was to search for
    a newer version but the search didn't show anything newer than 2.0.2

2) I also did a search in the bugs database and there didn't seem to be
    anything related

3) Today I was able to look at your message and discover that there are
    newer versions of K3B, BUT, there don't seem to be any release notes
    to be found for these newer versions except 17.11.0 and these didn't
    say anything about read back checks and checksums.

4) I downloaded 17.08 and there was a ChangeLog (good), but, there was
    nothing about read back checks (bad).

    I figured I'd try to build it to see what happens - haven't tried building
    anything with cmake before. I was in Mint and there is a Mint specific
    cmake and it seemed to install OK, but, it claimed my C compiler was
    defective. I switched to Debian which is where I want this to be anyway.
    Again, needed to install cmake, but, it was on the Debian DVD and it
    installed OK. No complaints about the C compiler this time, but, it also
    wanted C++. Fair enough, easy to install. Then it wanted Qt 5 - that
    was something like 60 packages and it took 2 attempts because the
    software manager is defective. Build still fails because it's just not the
    right version of Qt 5. I've got Debian 8.6.0 installed and would like to
    move to 9.1.0, but, it just won't install (I think they've gone to 9.2.0
    in the time I've spent trying to install it). And if/when I get Debian 9
    installed there's no guarantee that things will work any better.

5) Searched for Debian K3B packages today and got 2.0.2 for Debian 8
    and 2.0.3 for Debian 9 which raises the question of what's compatible.
    What use can a version like 17.08 or the latest version, 17.11, be
    if it isn't compatible with something like the latest version of Debian?
    And, of course, there's no sign of any change in the read back check
    anyway.

6) Documentation for K3B on the internet seems to be for 2.0.2 and I
    think maybe earlier versions. I don't recall seeing any newer docs.

Your refusal to accept a bug report for 2.0.2 basically boils down to a
cop out. I, like most people, can't build my own Linux distribution or large
chunks of it and have to depend on what others have built. Debian is a
major Linux distribution and, at the moment, the latest working version
appears to be 8. Bug reporting can't work if I can't report on what I can
realistically actually have.

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Christopher Witkowski          zcw913@aserty.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Zhai" <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org>
To: <zcw913@aserty.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:02 PM
Subject: [k3b] [Bug 385635] verification appears to be via checksum comparison rather than actual data comparison


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385635

Leslie Zhai <lesliezhai@llvm.org.cn> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Leslie Zhai <lesliezhai@llvm.org.cn> ---
Hi zcw913,

v2.0.2 was not be maintained any more, please use K3b v17.08
https://github.com/KDE/k3b

Regards,
Leslie Zhai
Comment 3 Justin Zobel 2022-11-10 08:51:51 UTC
Thank you for reporting this issue in KDE software. As it has been a while since this issue was reported, can we please ask you to see if you can reproduce the issue with a recent software version?

If you can reproduce the issue, please change the status to "REPORTED" when replying. Thank you!
Comment 4 Bug Janitor Service 2022-11-25 05:18:33 UTC
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Comment 5 Bug Janitor Service 2022-12-10 05:15:32 UTC
This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
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