Bug 384699 - Wrong calculation of future balance based on planned transactions
Summary: Wrong calculation of future balance based on planned transactions
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: kmymoney
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 5.0.1
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: KMyMoney Devel Mailing List
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Reported: 2017-09-14 09:25 UTC by Mornielome
Modified: 2023-03-23 03:45 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Screenshot of the planned transactions and predicted balance (78.15 KB, image/png)
2017-09-14 09:25 UTC, Mornielome
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errornous overview and ledger view for scheduled transactions (77.13 KB, image/png)
2018-09-20 06:49 UTC, Stefan Vater
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3 Screenshots Forecast (404.88 KB, image/png)
2023-02-21 11:06 UTC, Fabiano Caruana
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Description Mornielome 2017-09-14 09:25:47 UTC
Created attachment 107849 [details]
Screenshot of the planned transactions and predicted balance

I have an account with a planned transaction of -4.95 €. After the transaction the predicted balance is 340.55 € too low, messing up my financial planning quite a bit.
Comment 1 Stefan Vater 2018-09-19 19:22:50 UTC
Unfortunatelly, this still happens in the current version 5.0.1 (OpenSUSE package). Is tehre any update?
Comment 2 Thomas Baumgart 2018-09-19 19:57:32 UTC
(In reply to Mornielome from comment #0)
> I have an account with a planned transaction of -4.95 €. After the
> transaction the predicted balance is 340.55 € too low, messing up my
> financial planning quite a bit.

How does the ledger view look like between the 15th and the 20th of September of your Girokonto? Are there any transactions already entered? I do have two files here with a load of scheduled transactions and cannot duplicate this problem. This is on branch 5.0 code.
Comment 3 Stefan Vater 2018-09-20 06:49:56 UTC
Created attachment 115110 [details]
errornous overview and ledger view for scheduled transactions

Attached is what I get for my current account. Top (overview) vs. scheduled transactions in ledger view (bottom). I hope that helps
Comment 4 Fabiano Caruana 2023-02-17 20:43:20 UTC
Hi KMyMoney team,

The same problem as Mornielome and Stefan Vater.

Just a question of understanding:

in the overview for "Future Payments" the column is "Balance after".
I wonder how this value is composed, because in my opinion nothing fits.
Very simple: I have an account balance of 2,317.66, only one future income of 61.00, and I see a "balance after" of 2,380.16.
According to my very simple calculation, the "balance after" should be 2.378,66.
On my Girokonto with more payments, I find the balances to be even more chaotic. I definitely don't see through it.

I've just ignored that for years since I've been using KMyMoney (2014). But now I want to know.

Greetings from Riegelsberg
Udo
Comment 5 Thomas Baumgart 2023-02-19 08:29:46 UTC
@Udo: what is the configured forecast method? Scheduled or historic? You can find that setting in the forecast plugin view's settings. Do the numbers change when you select the other method?
Comment 6 Fabiano Caruana 2023-02-20 10:56:44 UTC
Hi Thomas,

Thank you for the info. I then found the settings under "Modules" and changed them to "Scheduled" and... voila... my balances are correct now. I don't need the "historic" forecast (I have no idea why I set it up that way many years ago).

Greetings from Riegelsberg
Udo

PS: I have not changed the Status of this Bug
Comment 7 Jack 2023-02-20 15:47:25 UTC
Before the bug gets  closed, I'll ask if there are any suggestions for where in the manual this could be mentioned.
Comment 8 Fabiano Caruana 2023-02-21 11:06:17 UTC
Created attachment 156565 [details]
3 Screenshots Forecast

Hi Jack,

The manual says that this can be changed in "Settings" under "Forecast". (screen shot 1)
That is not right. It can only be changed under "Modules". But the manual says nothing about it. It is only described that activating and deactivating modules is possible. (screen shot 2)
In fact, the "Forecast" can be edited in the "Modules" with the button marked in green. (Screenshot 3)
Unfortunately I had to search a bit...

I hope I could help.

Greetings from Riegelsberg
Udo
Comment 9 Bug Janitor Service 2023-03-08 03:45:35 UTC
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Comment 10 Bug Janitor Service 2023-03-23 03:45:43 UTC
This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
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