Bug 38039 - case insensitivity for folder display sucks
Summary: case insensitivity for folder display sucks
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: kmail
Classification: Unmaintained
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
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: 199244 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2002-02-12 22:48 UTC by Jo Schulze
Modified: 2010-02-22 18:31 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Jo Schulze 2002-02-12 22:45:10 UTC
(*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***)

Package:           kmail
Version:           KDE 2.2.2 
Severity:          wishlist
Installed from:    SuSE RPMs
Compiler:          gcc-2.95.3
OS:                Linux
OS/Compiler notes: Not Specified

I'd like the folder display in kmail being (optional) case sensitive.
Since KDE2.0.0 a lot of KDE apps have been changed to treat filenames case insensitive. I don't know if this limitation is inherited from QT but anyway:
Case sensitivity has always been commonly implemented and used on UNIX environments. I really don't see much sense in reversing the commonly used default behavior in favour of a M$ like treating (which is IMHO braindead). 
KDE is (among others) a GUI and humans are case sensitive. Therefore kde should be.

(Submitted via bugs.kde.org)
Comment 1 Marc Mutz 2002-02-13 09:35:00 UTC
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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 00:43 you wrote:
<snip>
> > This OTOH is complete BS.
>
> disagreed
> Anyway no need to throw that "BS" on me. I do not like that.
>
> > I don't know what makes you believe this
> > but KDE apps would fall hard on their faces if they ignored case in
> > filenames.
>
> Ok possibly I didn't make myself clear: kde _does_ distinguish
> between lower/uppercase chars. I was referring to the various
> displays of files/folders (like kmail folder/konqueror files) which
> are _sorted_ case insensitive.

Then say that not "KDE treats filenames cis" which _is_ BS sorry.
Unfortunately we can't distinguish between "BS reports" and=20
well-founded ones based on the sender's address. Being not precise in=20
your wording doesn't help that either...

> This behaviour ("default is
> case-insensitive") is a cause of bugs (#22764 #16798 (reported done
> before kde2.2.2 release but apparently not fixed there) #17560
> #12154 maybe more...) some of them are fixed now.

OK. But we can't change that now because simply making the listview=20
sort cis (which is probably easy to do) would shove the system folders=20
down the list to the bottom for me and everyone else using capitalized=20
folder names. Hopefully we get something done with the folder list for=20
3.1 tough.

Marc

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Marc Mutz <mutz@kde.org>
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Comment 2 Marc Mutz 2002-02-15 16:28:39 UTC
On Friday 15 February 2002 15:18 feend wrote:
<snip>
> Yes this solved the problem. Dude that's great how did you know?

We get approx. one or two reports per week about this. Unfortunately=20
it's an Xserver bug that we can't do anything about except hoping that=20
it get fixed. The word is that it's fixed in 4.2.0. You may want to=20
try...

> Thanx for the quickest responce in history!
> I can see why you guys are on top!

Thank you for your kind appreciation.

> If there is any thing I can do to help the team let me know. I am a
> electronics tech and have been using Linux for 3 years. But only know
> a bit of c++
<snip>

Well if you can code then we certainly have some stuff to do. Else=20
you could walk the list of bug reports and see which ones are still=20
valid. You'd need to update to 3.0 beta2 though...

> > On Friday 15 February 2002 14:19 feend@direcpc.com wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Kmail locks up durring edit of  To: field. this seems to only
> > > hapen when there are a lot of adresses in the field and I manualy
> > > click in the field and left arrow back to remove one.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Does disabling anti-aliasing (smooth fonts) help?
> >
> > Marc

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Comment 3 Ingo Klöcker 2002-10-23 19:12:02 UTC
If you don't like case insensitive sorting then set LC_COLLATE=POSIX. 
 
Comment 4 Christophe Marin 2009-07-07 21:57:55 UTC
*** Bug 199244 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Patrick Callahan 2010-02-22 18:31:50 UTC
New bugs in KDE4 have been marked as duplicates of this bug without this bug being re-evaluated.

KDE no longer honors LC_COLLATE! LC_COLLATE is already set to POSIX on my machine, and Dolphin, Konqueror, and KMail all use case-insensitive sorting regardless.

I've found the following related bugs in KDE 4, both marked as duplicates of this bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199244
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217814

Checking my environment from a shell using export or env shows that LC_COLLATE=POSIX. Manually starting a KDE application with LC_COLLATE=POSIX makes no difference. Using LC_COLLATE=C gives the same results.