Bug 379638 - Icon request: equal, unequal and swap
Summary: Icon request: equal, unequal and swap
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Breeze
Classification: Plasma
Component: Icons (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: visual-design
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2017-05-08 19:33 UTC by Alex Bikadorov
Modified: 2018-02-02 13:32 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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attachment-6612-0.html (2.35 KB, text/html)
2017-05-09 10:20 UTC, Jens Reuterberg
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Synchronizer in Krusader (102.69 KB, image/png)
2017-05-09 13:30 UTC, Alex Bikadorov
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Krusader main window (192.75 KB, image/png)
2017-05-09 13:31 UTC, Alex Bikadorov
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krusader compare dialog (6.50 KB, image/png)
2018-01-23 16:09 UTC, andreas
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Description Alex Bikadorov 2017-05-08 19:33:33 UTC
The Krusader project needs three icons:
* equal: a simple "=" sign as icon, monochrome colours
* unequal: the mathematical unequal sign (equal combined with a slash), monochrome and additionally in red if this is not too much work
* swap (sides): a double arrow "<->", monochrome

Background/Usage: Krusader file synchronizing feature
* equal: show identical files
* unequal: show differing files
* swap: swap the panel sides

All of them might be useful for other applications.

Thank you!
Comment 1 Jens Reuterberg 2017-05-09 10:20:54 UTC
Created attachment 105416 [details]
attachment-6612-0.html

For clarity of the icons - I am not a big Krusader user myself so just 
want to ask some (perhaps obvious) questions concerning the usage so we 
don't make icons that are more confusing than anything else.

Show Equal Files - would an equal sign be clear enough or would for 
example an "equal sign within a document" make more sense (or less)?
Show Unequal Files - should share some kind of similarity with the 
Equal Files icon so that both are "connected" in my logic (which is why 
say a document or file symbol with an equal/unequal sign in it would 
make more sense in my mind). But maybe that would be muddling the 
understanding of it.
Swap - since that might look like a "reload" icon would say a line in 
the middle or something that represent the two panels make sense?

Am I way of base in this thinking?

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:33 , Alex Bikadorov <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> 
wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379638
> 
>             Bug ID: 379638
>            Summary: Icon request: equal, unequal and swap
>            Product: Breeze
>            Version: unspecified
>           Platform: Other
>                 OS: Linux
>             Status: UNCONFIRMED
>           Severity: normal
>           Priority: NOR
>          Component: Icons
>           Assignee: visual-design@kde.org
>           Reporter: alex.bikadorov@kdemail.net
>                 CC: kainz.a@gmail.com
>   Target Milestone: ---
> 
> The Krusader project needs three icons:
> * equal: a simple "=" sign as icon, monochrome colours
> * unequal: the mathematical unequal sign (equal combined with a 
> slash),
> monochrome and additionally in red if this is not too much work
> * swap (sides): a double arrow "<->", monochrome
> 
> Background/Usage: Krusader file synchronizing feature
> * equal: show identical files
> * unequal: show differing files
> * swap: swap the panel sides
> 
> All of them might be useful for other applications.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> --
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> You are the assignee for the bug.
Comment 2 andreas 2017-05-09 10:38:14 UTC
please add an screenshot and maybe a icon name recommandation

thanks
Comment 3 Alex Bikadorov 2017-05-09 13:30:45 UTC
Created attachment 105419 [details]
Synchronizer in Krusader
Comment 4 Alex Bikadorov 2017-05-09 13:31:18 UTC
Created attachment 105420 [details]
Krusader main window
Comment 5 Alex Bikadorov 2017-05-09 13:31:34 UTC
No problem. Here are more information and screenshots. Should have provided them earlier.

"Synchronizer" is a tool in Krusader with an own window. It can compare content of folders and synchronize them. See first screenshot, the icons in question are marked.

>Show Equal Files - would an equal sign be clear enough or would for 
>example an "equal sign within a document" make more sense (or less)?

I definitely need an icon with only the equal sign (for another use case: show same folder in both panels; see second screenshot) and it would also better fit here to other icons next to it (see first screenshot).

>Show Unequal Files - should share some kind of similarity with the 
>Equal Files icon so that both are "connected" in my logic (which is why 
>say a document or file symbol with an equal/unequal sign in it would 
>make more sense in my mind). But maybe that would be muddling the 
>understanding of it.

Yes, there are logically connected - but also with other icons: arrow-right, arrow-left and trash (= show deleted files). Again: please see screenshot.

>Swap - since that might look like a "reload" icon would say a line in 
>the middle or something that represent the two panels make sense?

Yes. Visualizing the panels would fit here. But maybe its better to make it more general, so it can be used in other cases/applications. I don't want you guys to make icons for every single use case.

Thanks again.
Comment 6 Alex Bikadorov 2017-05-09 13:34:22 UTC
oh, icon name recommendation:

- "equals" or "document-equals"
- equivalent "unequals" or "document-unequals"
- "swap" or "swap-sides" or "swap-panels"

? Not sure.
Comment 7 andreas 2018-01-09 14:42:15 UTC
sorry that you didn't get an answer.

the master view look quite good with the "text" icons cause the "icons" are the same than you have in the file compare view.

I can make you icons if needed but I'd like to ask if I can make a mockup for the compare dialogue. I know the dialog come from total commander but that doesn't mean that you can't change it. 

I use krusader for three features
 1. search
 2. start krusader as root
 3. sync and compare folders
Comment 8 andreas 2018-01-09 14:44:48 UTC
Freecommander also have a nice compare layout

http://www.freecommander.com/fchelpxe/en/lib/NewItem265.png
Comment 9 Alex Bikadorov 2018-01-21 15:54:55 UTC
>the master view look quite good with the "text" icons cause the "icons" are the same than you have in the file compare view.
Well, having real icons for the buttons would be good. It just looks better and there were colored icons before. After that I can look into using icons also for the "<=>" column in the file view.

And specially the "!=" text icon is bad as not everybody may understand it.

>I can make you icons if needed but I'd like to ask if I can make a mockup for the compare dialogue.
What do you suggest? Of course, you can make a mockup. But I would like to avoid changes which are not really necessary. In the past there were often users who felt not comfortable with changes to UI and workflow they were used to for years. It's hard to satisfy everybody.

I still would really like to have the three new icons.
Comment 10 andreas 2018-01-23 16:09:52 UTC
Created attachment 110076 [details]
krusader compare dialog

what do you think for the folder compare dialog (top right)
Comment 11 andreas 2018-02-02 13:32:03 UTC
Git commit f478355a7549c502c8809222ed3ec385a8c52db5 by andreas kainz.
Committed on 02/02/2018 at 13:36.
Pushed by andreask into branch 'master'.

Add missing Krusader icons for folder sync

A  +13   -0    icons-dark/actions/16/document-compareleft.svg
A  +13   -0    icons-dark/actions/16/document-compareright.svg
A  +1    -0    icons-dark/actions/16/document-duplicate.svg
A  +1    -0    icons-dark/actions/16/document-equal.svg
A  +1    -0    icons-dark/actions/16/document-single.svg
A  +21   -0    icons-dark/actions/16/document-unequal.svg
A  +13   -0    icons-dark/actions/16/swap-panels.svg
A  +14   -0    icons-dark/actions/22/swap-panels.svg
A  +13   -0    icons/actions/16/document-compareleft.svg
A  +13   -0    icons/actions/16/document-compareright.svg
A  +1    -0    icons/actions/16/document-duplicate.svg
A  +1    -0    icons/actions/16/document-equal.svg
A  +1    -0    icons/actions/16/document-single.svg
A  +21   -0    icons/actions/16/document-unequal.svg
A  +13   -0    icons/actions/16/swap-panels.svg
A  +14   -0    icons/actions/22/swap-panels.svg

https://commits.kde.org/breeze-icons/f478355a7549c502c8809222ed3ec385a8c52db5