Bug 377146 - Brush color selection does not work on several brushes
Summary: Brush color selection does not work on several brushes
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: krita
Classification: Applications
Component: Brush engines (show other bugs)
Version: 3.1.2
Platform: Microsoft Windows Microsoft Windows
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Krita Bugs
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Reported: 2017-03-03 08:19 UTC by b-b3
Modified: 2017-03-04 09:15 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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2017-03-04 02:02 UTC, b-b3
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2017-03-04 09:15 UTC, b-b3
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Description b-b3 2017-03-03 08:19:10 UTC
Several brushes will only paint in a "blue-purple" color.  Fiddling with the color selector does not affect them.
Comment 1 Halla Rempt 2017-03-03 08:52:56 UTC
You're probably using the tangent-normal brush, where this is the intended behaviour: see https://userbase.kde.org/Krita/Manual/BrushEngines/TangentNormalBrush and http://wolthera.info/?p=774
Comment 2 b-b3 2017-03-03 20:19:29 UTC
"The Tangent Normal Brush Engine is an engine that is specifically designed for drawing normal maps, of the tangent variety. These are in turn used in 3d programs and game engines to do all sorts of lightning trickery. Common uses of normal maps include faking detail where there is none, and to drive transformations(Flow Maps). "  Sorry, the above is as helpful as Windows Help files:  It means nothing to me, Swahili, etc.  This clearly DOES (won't let me underline that word instead of caps), clearly does paint in color, blue-purple.  I don't know what faking detail means.  If I paint this on top of something else, it just blots it out, just as any other paint would.  Do ;you folks have a Primer for your Manual??   Signed, Feeling like I am Drowning
Comment 3 Halla Rempt 2017-03-03 20:34:59 UTC
If this is too abstruse, don't use those brushes. Use other brushes. These brushes are meant for people who need this feature; you don't need it, don't use it! There are very likely more features in Krita that are weird or incomprehensible unless you urgently need them. That doesn't mean the features are buggy, though.
Comment 4 b-b3 2017-03-04 02:02:15 UTC
Created attachment 104357 [details]
attachment-13228-0.html

Oops, didn't mean to poke the bear.  No, I just want to know how to make
them work, including how to use the ones I don't understand.  Is there
another source of info that does not use technical terms to answer
technical problems?  Like, could it tell me exactly what "painting with
surfaces", not colors, means?  And how to access that, in terms of "go to
this spot and click this/choose that option"?
I love what I have been able to get the program to do and don't want to
ditch the thing  because I don't understand chunks of it.  Much better to
learn how to work with those tools.
Thanks



On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 20:34:59 +0000 Boudewijn Rempt
<bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> writes:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377146
> 
> --- Comment #3 from Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> ---
> If this is too abstruse, don't use those brushes. Use other brushes. 
> These
> brushes are meant for people who need this feature; you don't need 
> it, don't
> use it! There are very likely more features in Krita that are weird 
> or
> incomprehensible unless you urgently need them. That doesn't mean 
> the features
> are buggy, though.
> 
> -- 
> You are receiving this mail because:
> You reported the bug.
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Comment 5 Dmitry Kazakov 2017-03-04 07:39:24 UTC
Hi, b-b1!

You can find information about our brush engines in the official manual:

https://docs.krita.org/Category:Brush_Engines



On 04.03.2017 05:02, bugzilla_noreply@kde.org wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377146
>
> --- Comment #4 from b-b3@juno.com ---
> Oops, didn't mean to poke the bear.  No, I just want to know how to make
> them work, including how to use the ones I don't understand.  Is there
> another source of info that does not use technical terms to answer
> technical problems?  Like, could it tell me exactly what "painting with
> surfaces", not colors, means?  And how to access that, in terms of "go to
> this spot and click this/choose that option"?
> I love what I have been able to get the program to do and don't want to
> ditch the thing  because I don't understand chunks of it.  Much better to
> learn how to work with those tools.
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 20:34:59 +0000 Boudewijn Rempt
> <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> writes:
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377146
>>
>> --- Comment #3 from Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> ---
>> If this is too abstruse, don't use those brushes. Use other brushes.
>> These
>> brushes are meant for people who need this feature; you don't need
>> it, don't
>> use it! There are very likely more features in Krita that are weird
>> or
>> incomprehensible unless you urgently need them. That doesn't mean
>> the features
>> are buggy, though.
>>
>> -- 
>> You are receiving this mail because:
>> You reported the bug.
> ____________________________________________________________
> Warning: Don't Use Probiotics Before You See This
> Gundry MD
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/58ba201053ca820102714st03vuc
>
Comment 6 b-b3 2017-03-04 09:15:53 UTC
Created attachment 104360 [details]
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Hi, Dmitry,
Thanks, but sadly, I barely understand a word of it.  Is there a primer
somewhere that can help me figure out what all the technical talk means?
Thanks, 
Tedster



On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:39:24 +0000 Dmitry Kazakov
<bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> writes:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377146
> 
> --- Comment #5 from Dmitry Kazakov <dimula73@gmail.com> ---
> Hi, b-b1!
> 
> You can find information about our brush engines in the official 
> manual:
> 
> https://docs.krita.org/Category:Brush_Engines
> 
> 
> 
> On 04.03.2017 05:02, bugzilla_noreply@kde.org wrote:
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377146
> >
> > --- Comment #4 from b-b3@juno.com ---
> > Oops, didn't mean to poke the bear.  No, I just want to know how 
> to make
> > them work, including how to use the ones I don't understand.  Is 
> there
> > another source of info that does not use technical terms to 
> answer
> > technical problems?  Like, could it tell me exactly what "painting 
> with
> > surfaces", not colors, means?  And how to access that, in terms of 
> "go to
> > this spot and click this/choose that option"?
> > I love what I have been able to get the program to do and don't 
> want to
> > ditch the thing  because I don't understand chunks of it.  Much 
> better to
> > learn how to work with those tools.
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 20:34:59 +0000 Boudewijn Rempt
> > <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> writes:
> >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377146
> >>
> >> --- Comment #3 from Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> ---
> >> If this is too abstruse, don't use those brushes. Use other 
> brushes.
> >> These
> >> brushes are meant for people who need this feature; you don't 
> need
> >> it, don't
> >> use it! There are very likely more features in Krita that are 
> weird
> >> or
> >> incomprehensible unless you urgently need them. That doesn't 
> mean
> >> the features
> >> are buggy, though.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> You are receiving this mail because:
> >> You reported the bug.
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > Warning: Don't Use Probiotics Before You See This
> > Gundry MD
> > 
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/58ba201053ca820102714st03vuc
> >
> 
> -- 
> You are receiving this mail because:
> You reported the bug.