Bug 368177 - Bookmarks/places are separated and hard to use, and there's no "Recents"
Summary: Bookmarks/places are separated and hard to use, and there's no "Recents"
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: kfile
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Kubuntu Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdelibs bugs
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Keywords: triaged
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2016-09-03 08:41 UTC by Dan Dascalescu
Modified: 2021-02-19 22:11 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Why separate Places from Bookmarks? (120.42 KB, image/png)
2016-09-03 08:41 UTC, Dan Dascalescu
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Pinta has a different file dialog... why? (47.15 KB, image/png)
2016-09-03 08:42 UTC, Dan Dascalescu
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"Show bookmarks" in kdialog (69.02 KB, image/png)
2019-03-25 19:35 UTC, Patrick Silva
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Bookmarks visible in file picker (230.72 KB, image/png)
2021-02-14 09:31 UTC, Dan Dascalescu
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Description Dan Dascalescu 2016-09-03 08:41:04 UTC
I'm coming from Mint Cinnamon 18, where file open/save dialogs share a list of bookmarks in the left sidebar. I can drag there directories I use frequently, and the list is visible at all times. Great for quickly navigating around the filesystem, this feature probably saves me half an hour every day.

KDE has places *and* bookmarks. What's the point of bookmarks?

Also, some file dialogs, Pinta's notably, don't support Places.

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Dan Dascalescu 2016-09-03 08:41:34 UTC
Created attachment 100904 [details]
Why separate Places from Bookmarks?
Comment 2 Dan Dascalescu 2016-09-03 08:42:42 UTC
Created attachment 100905 [details]
Pinta has a different file dialog... why?

I suspect I'll be told to file this issue with Pinta. However, as the most popular image (not pixel) editing software, a neat KDE distribution should ensure that Pinta works well.
Comment 3 Christoph Feck 2016-09-04 05:44:42 UTC
Pinta is not KDE software, so it does not use the KDE file dialogs.

Regarding the bookmark icon in the KDE file dialog, I do not see it here. Can you please check:
- if it appears with all KDE applications, if not, which not?
- if it does appear in all KDE applications, if it also appears with a freshly created user account?
- if yes, can you try a different distribution?

Also, can you please ask Mint developers, why they let you beta test the old Plasma 5.5 software, when we already released Plasma 5.6 and 5.7 as stable releases.
Comment 4 Dan Dascalescu 2016-09-04 07:54:57 UTC
The bookmark icon appeared with a fresh install of KDE 5.5.5.

By coming from Mint, I meant migrating from Cinnamon to KDE. I installed Kubuntu, which comes with KDE 5.5.5. I also wanted to upgrade, but couldn't figure out how to do so beyond 5.6.5 - http://askubuntu.com/questions/820613/upgrade-kde-plasma-on-kubuntu-16-04-1
Comment 5 Christoph Feck 2016-09-08 15:26:27 UTC
> The bookmark icon appeared with a fresh install of KDE 5.5.5.

Which applications? The screen shot looks like it is a dialog from a non-KDE web browser.
Comment 6 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-09-26 22:10:19 UTC
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with no change in 30 days, the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME due to lack of needed information.

For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the wiki located here: https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging

If you have already provided the requested information, please set the bug status as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is ready to be confirmed.

Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!
Comment 7 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-10-27 02:20:00 UTC
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME due to lack of needed information.

For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the wiki located here: https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging

Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!
Comment 8 Patrick Silva 2019-03-25 19:35:52 UTC
Created attachment 119033 [details]
"Show bookmarks" in kdialog

Bookmark icon is present after I press ctrl+s in chromium internet browser and enable "Show bookmarks" shown in my screenshot.

Operating System: Arch Linux 
KDE Plasma Version: 5.15.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.56.0
Qt Version: 5.12.2
Comment 9 Dan Dascalescu 2021-02-14 09:31:53 UTC
Created attachment 135678 [details]
Bookmarks visible in file picker

Coming back to this bug a few years later after I have a better understanding of KDE :)

Please forget the comments about the file picker used by Pinta. I guess that's a different library (Mon? GTK?)

I've used Kate as an example in the latest screenshot. My confusion was as to why there is a list of "Bookmarks" as well as a list of "Places". Is there a use case were a bookmark would be useful or needed, but it couldn't be put under Places? Otherwise it seems unusual to have web bookmarks as destinations for saving or selecting files.
Comment 10 Nate Graham 2021-02-19 22:11:44 UTC
Yeah, bookmarks and places are different features: bookmarks are hierarchical, while Places are flat.

I find this to be a bit odd too, and I suspect it's why the bookmarks button is hidden in the file dialogs by default, and why the Bookmarks feature added to Dolphin a year or so ago is quite hidden in a sub-menu of the Go menu (which isn't visible by default).

So we have a sort of "Simple by default (places)" and "Powerful when needed (bookmarks)" split.

Without simply ripping Bookmarks out, I'm not sure there's anything actionable here. And if we do that, we'll surely upset the small subset of people who do use the feature. So I think we probably have to stay with the status quo. :)