Bug 361567 - task bar icon for multiple window grouping obscures application icons
Summary: task bar icon for multiple window grouping obscures application icons
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: plasmashell
Classification: Plasma
Component: Theme - Breeze (show other bugs)
Version: 5.6.1
Platform: Chakra Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: 1.0
Assignee: visual-design
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Keywords:
Depends on:
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Reported: 2016-04-10 01:18 UTC by Eric S
Modified: 2019-11-14 06:00 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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kainz.a: Usability+


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Here is what my screen looks like; 1920 x 1200 screen (400.12 KB, image/png)
2016-04-13 15:10 UTC, Eric S
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Description Eric S 2016-04-10 01:18:56 UTC
Task bar Icon indicating more than one window is being groups almost entirely obscures the application icon. With the current version I find only a tiny sliver of the app icon is visible, which is a big impediment to useabilty. 

See also this discussion:
https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=130682

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Eric S 2016-04-11 20:32:24 UTC
It would be wonderful if there were some way to simply turn off this feature. This is a new feature that, in my opinion, is really not in any way useful, even if it worked properly. One only looks at the Task bar if one is about to use it, and by using it immediately finds out how many windows the icon is grouping. Knowing ahead of that click is not really of any benefit that I can see.
 
I really cannot imagine a case where I would glance at the bar to find out how many windows an application has open. And if there is such a use case it is rare enough that it does not warrant having this icon present all the time. So actually a good fix for this would be to simply remove this feature entirely.
Comment 2 Thomas Pfeiffer 2016-04-12 22:49:03 UTC
Having an indicator that there are additional windows hidden behind a taskbar entry does make sense (as it prevents any "Huh, where did my window go?" kind of situations).
The problem is just that in tiny panels (I'm impressed that you can actually work with such a tiny panel!), the application icon becomes tiny but the indicator keeps its size, thus covering the whole icon.

The indicator should therefore scale with the icon. That does mean that at some point it becomes invisible, but as long as it's visible in the default panel height, I don't see much of a problem with that.
Comment 3 Eric S 2016-04-13 14:22:35 UTC
My panel is not that tiny. And believe me, my eyes are not that great, I'm not someone who has his screen with everything set really fine.  I suspect there is some additional element of screen geometry or something at play. I'll see if there are any specific numbers I can report about my configuration. If you have any suggestions where to get some useful numbers, please let me know.
Comment 4 Eric S 2016-04-13 14:40:51 UTC
Also I disagree that the "Huh, where did my window go?"  use case is one that justifies something that will be in the screen at all times (and certainly not as something you cannot disable and is on by default). If you have icon grouping enabled, having multiple windows grouped (not hidden) under the icon is routine...no one is going to have much more than a fleeting single "Huh, where did my window go?"  experience when they are a completely new to it. It adds unnecessary clutter for the majority of cases for a single edge case.
Comment 5 Eric S 2016-04-13 15:10:28 UTC
Created attachment 98379 [details]
Here is what my screen looks like; 1920 x 1200 screen
Comment 6 Thomas Pfeiffer 2016-04-13 15:57:44 UTC
Hm that is odd indeed, it doesn't look like that with my panel height on my machine.
Comment 7 Eric S 2016-04-13 16:19:01 UTC
I should note that this is a laptop with a 1600 x 900 screen, and I often use it with an external 1920x1200 monitor. It looks similar on either screen.
Comment 8 Alexander Mentyu 2018-02-21 10:12:51 UTC
Currently the plus sign overlaps app icon only on very tiny panel - on all other heights it looks ok

Plasma: 5.12.1
Apps: 17.12.2
Frameworks: 5.43.0
Qt: 5.10.1
Kernel: 4.14.20-2-MANJARO
OS: Netrunner Rolling
Video: Intel 4400
Screen: 1600x900
Comment 9 Nate Graham 2019-11-14 04:10:46 UTC
After some changes, this is pretty much fine now IMO.
Comment 10 Eric S 2019-11-14 06:00:08 UTC
Agreed.