Bug 346917 - breeze-dark lack of contrast between window borders and backgrounds: overlapping windows can get confusing
Summary: breeze-dark lack of contrast between window borders and backgrounds: overlapp...
Status: RESOLVED MOVED
Alias: None
Product: Breeze
Classification: Plasma
Component: window decoration (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Hugo Pereira Da Costa
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Reported: 2015-04-29 19:18 UTC by Peter Cordes
Modified: 2015-05-01 22:07 UTC (History)
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Description Peter Cordes 2015-04-29 19:18:46 UTC
I love breeze-dark.  There are difficulties with some non-KDE apps, especially firefox, but also some other apps where you get stuff like dark blue links on a gray background, but that's not what this bug is about.

One usability issue I have with breeze-dark is that my eye doesn't always see the boundary of a window, if I have two windows overlapping.  With the title bar the same color as the backgrounds, one window blends into another visually.  If I have overlapping windows, I want to be able to see that, oh, that bit is actually from another window.

IDK if it's possible to choose a window border color that isn't ugly, but isn't quite the same as the backgrounds.

One change I made in System Settings -> Colors -> Colors is:
Active Titlebar: a dark red (#630000)
Inactive Titlebar: a very dark red (#280000)

I use a solid dark blue desktop background (#004), and the gray, dark blue, and dark red actually look ok.  The red for active titlebars is bolder than the rest of the color scheme, but I don't find it garish.  White text in titlebars is easily readable against the dark red.

I also use the "Dim Inactive" desktop effect, with strength 10.  I use "disable compositing for fullscreen windows" so it doesn't affect mpv playing fullscreen video on one monitor, while the focus is on something else.  This effect makes inactive titlebars even dimmer, which isn't really needed, but it's ok.

I might turn off that effect now that I've changed the default titlebar colors to something that makes it easier to tell which window has the keyboard focus.  (I use focus follows mouse.)  IIRC, lack of difference between active/inactive windows was another weak point of the default breeze-dark theme.

IDK if this is the right place for UI-design feedback like this;  sorry if it isn't!


Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Hugo Pereira Da Costa 2015-05-01 13:12:27 UTC
Hi,
I think this would rather be discussed on the Visual Design Group (VDG) forum. (https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=285)

Feel free to create a thread there (you should be able to use the same login as on the bugzilla page, so should not be too hard)

There also have been discussions there about re-introducing a window "glow" ala oxygen for active window shadow (to address the same issue, in fact)

(if you are willing to do that, then I would also close this bug, since I really have no skills/expertise about picking colors for changing the window palette)

Best,

Hugo
Comment 2 Peter Cordes 2015-05-01 22:07:50 UTC
Thanks for pointing me to the right place for my report.

resolved(moved) to https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=126190#p334010