Bug 341426 - Change default to Yes for "Keep replies in this folder"
Summary: Change default to Yes for "Keep replies in this folder"
Status: VERIFIED REMIND
Alias: None
Product: kmail2
Classification: Applications
Component: folders (show other bugs)
Version: 4.12.5
Platform: Gentoo Packages Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
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Reported: 2014-11-30 02:04 UTC by Peter Humphrey
Modified: 2014-12-14 13:26 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Peter Humphrey 2014-11-30 02:04:35 UTC
KDE is not yet infallible and I do still have to create a new user for myself occasionally, and then import my 13,000 e-mails from the previous account into the new one. I always want to have replies kept in the current folder, except for those containing mailing lists, and it's a nuisance having to go through every one of the several dozen folders and tick the "Keep replies..." box under Folder Properties.


Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Laurent Montel 2014-12-05 16:04:11 UTC
Sorry I will not change this settings.
Otherwise If I wanted (but I don't) it will break logic for all users.
Regards
Comment 2 Peter Humphrey 2014-12-13 10:11:39 UTC
Yet you seem to be quite happy to release a version (4.14.3) that removes all my carefully set folder prefer-HTML choices without permission. I was only asking for a change in a default setting, which would not have affected anyone's existing setup.
This is one more illustration of the amateurish approach to KDE development and release.
Comment 3 Jonathan Marten 2014-12-13 11:45:10 UTC
@submitter:  I think it's been made clear that changing the default will silently affect KMail's behaviour for many other users, and as such will not be implemented.  It's an unfamiliar option that is not normally provided in other mail clients (although I use it in certain KMail folders and do find it useful) so Laurent's POV is understandable.

One option that may better received, though, would be to suggest that this and possibly other folder options too are made inherited;  that is, for example, setting this option on "Local Folders" would apply it not only there but also on any subfolders to any depth, unless explicitly overridden.  This would allow you in your case to set this option for all folders in only one operation, while still retaining the current default and any current users' settings.

This is an option that I've cosidered investigting myself, so if you feel that this would be a workable option for you then please feel free to submit a wishlist item or discuss it on KDE Brainstorm.
Comment 4 Laurent Montel 2014-12-13 13:34:15 UTC
(In reply to Peter Humphrey from comment #2)
> Yet you seem to be quite happy to release a version (4.14.3) that removes
> all my carefully set folder prefer-HTML choices without permission. I was
> only asking for a change in a default setting, which would not have affected
> anyone's existing setup.
> This is one more illustration of the amateurish approach to KDE development
> and release.

??????????????????
you bug is about " Change default to Yes for "Keep replies in this folder" and now you speak about "prefer-HTML choices" ?? Please don't mix bug report.

"This is one more illustration of the amateurish approach to KDE development and release." If you think that you are better send patch and co no ?
Comment 5 Peter Humphrey 2014-12-14 13:26:07 UTC
(In reply to Laurent Montel in comment #4)
> If you think that you are better send patch and co no ?

I've been retired for 16 years, but before that I was personally responsible for the whole of the software development and maintenance cycle on a 17-mainframe system distributed over five sites with dual-redundant HDLC links, scores of thousands of real-time inputs, 10 programming languages, user construction of complex engineering displays, ... (I needen't go on).
I don't impugn the competence of anybody in particular, but it cannot be denied that any software development system must be broken if it allows the release of fiascos like the first few versions of KDE-4, and in particular KMail-2, which destroyed e-mail collections around the world and drove many previously happy users to find other ways of managing e-mail.
If anything remotely resembling such humiliations as those had happened on my watch, the consequences for all those involved - and for electricity supply in the UK - would have been dire.
I don't wish to blame any one person, as I said, but some quality control is needed, together with a quality management system (see ISO-9001).