Bug 318309 - Unattended crash
Summary: Unattended crash
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: kdelibs
Classification: Unmaintained
Component: kded (show other bugs)
Version: 4.10.1
Platform: Fedora RPMs Linux
: NOR crash
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unassigned bugs mailing-list
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Reported: 2013-04-13 20:40 UTC by Dave
Modified: 2018-11-30 03:53 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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New crash information added by DrKonqi (6.65 KB, text/plain)
2014-03-29 16:47 UTC, Jerry Nelson
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New crash information added by DrKonqi (6.44 KB, text/plain)
2014-04-04 23:34 UTC, Jerry Nelson
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New crash information added by DrKonqi (6.93 KB, text/plain)
2014-04-08 14:22 UTC, Jerry Nelson
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Description Dave 2013-04-13 20:40:28 UTC
Application: kded4 ($Id$)
KDE Platform Version: 4.10.1
Qt Version: 4.8.4
Operating System: Linux 3.8.4-202.fc18.i686 i686
Distribution: "Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow)"

-- Information about the crash:
- What I was doing when the application crashed:

Nothing. The system was idle overnight and the crash report appeared in the morning.

-- Backtrace:
Application: KDE Daemon (kded4), signal: Aborted
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0xb7740780 (LWP 1686))]

Thread 6 (Thread 0xb45ffb40 (LWP 1694)):
#0  0xb7790424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0x430f2e52 in __lll_lock_wait () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/i486/lowlevellock.S:144
#2  0x430ee9b1 in _L_lock_856 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x430ee975 in __GI___pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x841d200) at pthread_mutex_lock.c:104
#4  0x434c7961 in g_mutex_lock (mutex=mutex@entry=0x43568afc <allocator+60>) at gthread-posix.c:210
#5  0x434a14c7 in magazine_cache_trim (allocator=0x43568ac0 <allocator>, stamp=74901616, ix=0) at gslice.c:663
#6  magazine_cache_push_magazine (ix=ix@entry=0, magazine_chunks=<optimized out>, count=45) at gslice.c:703
#7  0x434a1672 in private_thread_memory_cleanup (data=0xb47005a8) at gslice.c:770
#8  0x430ec8f6 in __nptl_deallocate_tsd () at pthread_create.c:156
#9  0x430ecb0d in start_thread (arg=0xb45ffb40) at pthread_create.c:315
#10 0x42fda0be in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:132

Thread 5 (Thread 0xb3d60b40 (LWP 1701)):
#0  g_source_iter_next (iter=iter@entry=0xb3d60060, source=source@entry=0xb3d6005c) at gmain.c:863
#1  0x43484ebd in g_main_context_check (context=context@entry=0xb4702150, max_priority=2147483647, fds=fds@entry=0xb4702ac0, n_fds=n_fds@entry=1) at gmain.c:3152
#2  0x43485412 in g_main_context_iterate (context=context@entry=0xb4702150, block=block@entry=1, dispatch=dispatch@entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3287
#3  0x434855e2 in g_main_context_iteration (context=0xb4702150, may_block=1) at gmain.c:3351
#4  0x44129b1f in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=0xb4700df0, flags=...) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:426
#5  0x440f5b5d in QEventLoop::processEvents (this=this@entry=0xb3d601f8, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:149
#6  0x440f5e59 in QEventLoop::exec (this=0xb3d601f8, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:204
#7  0x43fde0dc in QThread::exec (this=0x855a890) at thread/qthread.cpp:542
#8  0xb627f095 in KCupsConnection::run() () from /lib/libkcupslib.so
#9  0x43fe156a in QThreadPrivate::start (arg=0x855a890) at thread/qthread_unix.cpp:338
#10 0x430ecaff in start_thread (arg=0xb3d60b40) at pthread_create.c:308
#11 0x42fda0be in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:132

Thread 4 (Thread 0xb355fb40 (LWP 1702)):
#0  0x430ee900 in __GI___pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x8597338) at pthread_mutex_lock.c:95
#1  0x434c7961 in g_mutex_lock (mutex=mutex@entry=0x85997d0) at gthread-posix.c:210
#2  0x43484b47 in g_main_context_prepare (context=context@entry=0x85997d0, priority=priority@entry=0xb355f0e8) at gmain.c:2929
#3  0x4348537f in g_main_context_iterate (context=context@entry=0x85997d0, block=block@entry=1, dispatch=dispatch@entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3270
#4  0x434855e2 in g_main_context_iteration (context=0x85997d0, may_block=1) at gmain.c:3351
#5  0x44129b1f in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=0x858e888, flags=...) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:426
#6  0x440f5b5d in QEventLoop::processEvents (this=this@entry=0xb355f218, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:149
#7  0x440f5e59 in QEventLoop::exec (this=0xb355f218, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:204
#8  0x43fde0dc in QThread::exec (this=this@entry=0x8414038) at thread/qthread.cpp:542
#9  0x43fde23c in QThread::run (this=0x8414038) at thread/qthread.cpp:609
#10 0x43fe156a in QThreadPrivate::start (arg=0x8414038) at thread/qthread_unix.cpp:338
#11 0x430ecaff in start_thread (arg=0xb355fb40) at pthread_create.c:308
#12 0x42fda0be in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:132

Thread 3 (Thread 0xb2d5eb40 (LWP 1704)):
#0  read (__nbytes=16, __buf=0xb2d5dffc, __fd=19) at gwakeup.c:212
#1  g_wakeup_acknowledge (wakeup=0xb47031b8) at gwakeup.c:212
#2  0x43484fab in g_main_context_check (context=context@entry=0xb4802488, max_priority=2147483647, fds=fds@entry=0xb4802d50, n_fds=n_fds@entry=1) at gmain.c:3129
#3  0x43485412 in g_main_context_iterate (context=context@entry=0xb4802488, block=block@entry=1, dispatch=dispatch@entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3287
#4  0x434855e2 in g_main_context_iteration (context=0xb4802488, may_block=1) at gmain.c:3351
#5  0x44129b1f in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=0xb4800df0, flags=...) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:426
#6  0x440f5b5d in QEventLoop::processEvents (this=this@entry=0xb2d5e1e8, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:149
#7  0x440f5e59 in QEventLoop::exec (this=0xb2d5e1e8, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:204
#8  0x43fde0dc in QThread::exec (this=0x859c058) at thread/qthread.cpp:542
#9  0x440d3b2e in QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::run (this=0x859c058) at io/qfilesystemwatcher_inotify.cpp:256
#10 0x43fe156a in QThreadPrivate::start (arg=0x859c058) at thread/qthread_unix.cpp:338
#11 0x430ecaff in start_thread (arg=0xb2d5eb40) at pthread_create.c:308
#12 0x42fda0be in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:132

Thread 2 (Thread 0xb2515b40 (LWP 1758)):
[KCrash Handler]
#7  0xb7790424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#8  0x42f13b7f in __GI_raise (sig=sig@entry=6) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:63
#9  0x42f154d3 in __GI_abort () at abort.c:90
#10 0x43453330 in mem_error (format=format@entry=0x43500130 "failed to allocate %u bytes (alignment: %u): %s\n") at gslice.c:1442
#11 0x434536ed in allocator_add_slab (allocator=0x43568ac0 <allocator>, chunk_size=24, ix=2) at gslice.c:1261
#12 slab_allocator_alloc_chunk (chunk_size=chunk_size@entry=24) at gslice.c:1300
#13 0x434a21cd in magazine_cache_pop_magazine (countp=0xb4602104, ix=50) at gslice.c:724
#14 thread_memory_magazine1_reload (tmem=<optimized out>, ix=50) at gslice.c:794
#15 g_slice_alloc (mem_size=mem_size@entry=24) at gslice.c:992
#16 0x434be3eb in g_variant_alloc (trusted=trusted@entry=1, serialised=1, type=0x434f5606, type@entry=0x4b3ff850) at gvariant-core.c:476
#17 g_variant_new_from_bytes (type=type@entry=0x434f5606, bytes=bytes@entry=0x4b3ff850, trusted=trusted@entry=1) at gvariant-core.c:511
#18 0x434b78d3 in g_variant_new_from_trusted (type=type@entry=0x434f5606, data=data@entry=0xb2514d20, size=size@entry=4) at gvariant.c:327
#19 0x434b7a96 in g_variant_new_uint32 (value=2) at gvariant.c:516
#20 0xb5b21f2e in parse_value_from_blob (mis=mis@entry=0xb4604800 [GMemoryInputStream], dis=dis@entry=0x86f0280 [GDataInputStream], type=type@entry=0xbf9d80fa, just_align=just_align@entry=0, indent=indent@entry=8, error=error@entry=0xb2514e1c) at gdbusmessage.c:1159
#21 0xb5b22076 in parse_value_from_blob (mis=mis@entry=0xb4604800 [GMemoryInputStream], dis=dis@entry=0x86f0280 [GDataInputStream], type=type@entry=0xbf9d80f2, just_align=just_align@entry=0, indent=indent@entry=6, error=error@entry=0xb2514ecc) at gdbusmessage.c:1439
#22 0xb5b22264 in parse_value_from_blob (mis=mis@entry=0xb4604800 [GMemoryInputStream], dis=dis@entry=0x86f0280 [GDataInputStream], type=type@entry=0xbf9d80f1, just_align=just_align@entry=0, indent=indent@entry=4, error=error@entry=0xb2514f7c) at gdbusmessage.c:1354
#23 0xb5b22076 in parse_value_from_blob (mis=mis@entry=0xb4604800 [GMemoryInputStream], dis=dis@entry=0x86f0280 [GDataInputStream], type=type@entry=0xbf9d80f0, just_align=just_align@entry=0, indent=indent@entry=2, error=error@entry=0xb25150d8) at gdbusmessage.c:1439
#24 0xb5b23c77 in g_dbus_message_new_from_blob (blob=0xb4607a00 "l\002\001\001\300\323", blob_len=54288, capabilities=G_DBUS_CAPABILITY_FLAGS_UNIX_FD_PASSING, error=error@entry=0xb25150d8) at gdbusmessage.c:1793
#25 0xb5b2f577 in _g_dbus_worker_do_read_cb (input_stream=0x86b1918 [GSocket], res=0x9541418, user_data=0x86b58c8) at gdbusprivate.c:753
#26 0xb5ac19d5 in g_simple_async_result_complete (simple=simple@entry=0x9541418 [GSimpleAsyncResult]) at gsimpleasyncresult.c:775
#27 0xb5ac1afc in complete_in_idle_cb (data=data@entry=0x9541418) at gsimpleasyncresult.c:787
#28 0x43482311 in g_idle_dispatch (source=source@entry=0x961d400, callback=0xb5ac1ae0 <complete_in_idle_cb>, user_data=0x9541418) at gmain.c:4806
#29 0x4348515b in g_main_dispatch (context=0x86b46c0, context@entry=0x8674828) at gmain.c:2715
#30 g_main_context_dispatch (context=context@entry=0x86b46c0) at gmain.c:3219
#31 0x43485500 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x86b46c0, block=block@entry=1, dispatch=dispatch@entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3290
#32 0x43485963 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x86b4688) at gmain.c:3484
#33 0xb5b2cfeb in gdbus_shared_thread_func (user_data=0x86b46a8) at gdbusprivate.c:277
#34 0x434ab644 in g_thread_proxy (data=0x8675290) at gthread.c:797
#35 0x430ecaff in start_thread (arg=0xb2515b40) at pthread_create.c:308
#36 0x42fda0be in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:132

Thread 1 (Thread 0xb7740780 (LWP 1686)):
#0  0xb7790424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0x42fcfbab in poll () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81
#2  0x4349432c in poll (__timeout=-1, __nfds=1, __fds=0x8719d20) at /usr/include/bits/poll2.h:46
#3  g_poll (fds=0x8719d20, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at gpoll.c:132
#4  0x43485480 in g_main_context_poll (priority=2147483647, n_fds=1, fds=0x8719d20, timeout=<optimized out>, context=0x895e678) at gmain.c:3584
#5  g_main_context_iterate (context=0x895e678, block=block@entry=1, dispatch=dispatch@entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3285
#6  0x43485963 in g_main_loop_run (loop=0x863aec0) at gmain.c:3484
#7  0xb49ad658 in polkit_authority_check_authorization_sync () from /lib/libpolkit-gobject-1.so.0
#8  0xb49ccba1 in PolkitQt1::Authority::checkAuthorizationSync (this=0x85cc478, actionId=..., subject=..., flags=...) at /usr/src/debug/polkit-qt-1-0.103.0/core/polkitqt1-authority.cpp:329
#9  0xb49db299 in KAuth::Polkit1Backend::actionStatus (this=0x858d0c0, action=...) at /usr/src/debug/kdelibs-4.10.1/kdecore/auth/backends/polkit-1/Polkit1Backend.cpp:149
#10 0xb49dba6e in KAuth::Polkit1Backend::checkForResultChanged (this=0x858d0c0) at /usr/src/debug/kdelibs-4.10.1/kdecore/auth/backends/polkit-1/Polkit1Backend.cpp:199
#11 0xb49da5ac in qt_static_metacall (_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _a=0xbfa3ac0c, _id=0, _o=0x858d0c0) at /usr/src/debug/kdelibs-4.10.1/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/kdecore/moc_Polkit1Backend.cpp:50
#12 KAuth::Polkit1Backend::qt_static_metacall (_o=0x858d0c0, _c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=0, _a=0xbfa3ac0c) at /usr/src/debug/kdelibs-4.10.1/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/kdecore/moc_Polkit1Backend.cpp:44
#13 0x4410e28e in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x85cc478, m=0xb49d6ef8 <PolkitQt1::Authority::staticMetaObject>, local_signal_index=0, argv=0x0) at kernel/qobject.cpp:3539
#14 0xb49c9206 in PolkitQt1::Authority::configChanged (this=0x85cc478) at /usr/src/debug/polkit-qt-1-0.103.0/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/core/polkitqt1-authority.moc:157
#15 0xb49ccd84 in PolkitQt1::Authority::Private::pk_config_changed () at /usr/src/debug/polkit-qt-1-0.103.0/core/polkitqt1-authority.cpp:301
#16 0x435a3e2f in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOIDv (closure=closure@entry=0x86b6cf8, return_value=return_value@entry=0x0, instance=instance@entry=0x8676400, args=args@entry=0xbfa3afb8 "\360\311\232\264", marshal_data=marshal_data@entry=0x0, n_params=n_params@entry=0, param_types=param_types@entry=0x0) at gmarshal.c:115
#17 0x435a22b2 in _g_closure_invoke_va (closure=closure@entry=0x86b6cf8, return_value=return_value@entry=0x0, instance=instance@entry=0x8676400, args=args@entry=0xbfa3afb8 "\360\311\232\264", n_params=n_params@entry=0, param_types=0x0) at gclosure.c:840
#18 0x435bba06 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=instance@entry=0x8676400, signal_id=signal_id@entry=3, detail=detail@entry=0, var_args=var_args@entry=0xbfa3afb8 "\360\311\232\264") at gsignal.c:3211
#19 0x435bc895 in g_signal_emit_by_name (instance=0x8676400, detailed_signal=0xb49b7753 "changed") at gsignal.c:3393
#20 0xb49aca4a in on_proxy_signal () from /lib/libpolkit-gobject-1.so.0
#21 0x4359061a in ffi_call_SYSV () at ../src/x86/sysv.S:64
#22 0x43590391 in ffi_call (cif=cif@entry=0xbfa3b134, fn=fn@entry=0xb49ac9f0 <on_proxy_signal>, rvalue=0xbfa3b0b0, avalue=avalue@entry=0xbfa3b050) at ../src/x86/ffi.c:303
#23 0x435a2974 in g_cclosure_marshal_generic (closure=closure@entry=0x86b5ff0, return_gvalue=return_gvalue@entry=0x0, n_param_values=n_param_values@entry=4, param_values=param_values@entry=0xbfa3b2f0, invocation_hint=invocation_hint@entry=0xbfa3b29c, marshal_data=marshal_data@entry=0x0) at gclosure.c:1454
#24 0x435a2007 in g_closure_invoke (closure=0x86b5ff0, return_value=return_value@entry=0x0, n_param_values=n_param_values@entry=4, param_values=param_values@entry=0xbfa3b2f0, invocation_hint=invocation_hint@entry=0xbfa3b29c) at gclosure.c:777
#25 0x435b3fad in signal_emit_unlocked_R (node=node@entry=0x86ac690, detail=detail@entry=0, instance=instance@entry=0x86ae010, emission_return=emission_return@entry=0x0, instance_and_params=instance_and_params@entry=0xbfa3b2f0) at gsignal.c:3551
#26 0x435bc261 in g_signal_emit_valist (instance=instance@entry=0x86ae010, signal_id=signal_id@entry=5, detail=detail@entry=0, var_args=0xbfa3b538 "", var_args@entry=0xbfa3b52c "`\355m\b\360\205v\b \\>K") at gsignal.c:3300
#27 0x435bc3e4 in g_signal_emit (instance=instance@entry=0x86ae010, signal_id=5, detail=detail@entry=0) at gsignal.c:3356
#28 0xb5b290ff in on_signal_received (connection=0x86b0070 [GDBusConnection], sender_name=0x86ded60 ":1.5", object_path=0x80c6008 "/org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority", interface_name=0x873e9d0 "org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority", signal_name=0x87685f0 "Changed", parameters=0x4b3e5c20, user_data=0x841e320) at gdbusproxy.c:927
#29 0xb5b16ea7 in emit_signal_instance_in_idle_cb (data=data@entry=0xbf9f63d8) at gdbusconnection.c:3715
#30 0x43482311 in g_idle_dispatch (source=source@entry=0x80c7008, callback=0xb5b16e10 <emit_signal_instance_in_idle_cb>, user_data=0xbf9f63d8) at gmain.c:4806
#31 0x4348515b in g_main_dispatch (context=0x841e200, context@entry=0x841e1c8) at gmain.c:2715
#32 g_main_context_dispatch (context=context@entry=0x841e200) at gmain.c:3219
#33 0x43485500 in g_main_context_iterate (context=context@entry=0x841e200, block=block@entry=1, dispatch=dispatch@entry=1, self=<optimized out>) at gmain.c:3290
#34 0x434855e2 in g_main_context_iteration (context=0x841e200, may_block=1) at gmain.c:3351
#35 0x44129b02 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=0x83f2850, flags=...) at kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:424
#36 0x449a470b in QGuiEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents (this=0x83f2850, flags=...) at kernel/qguieventdispatcher_glib.cpp:207
#37 0x440f5b5d in QEventLoop::processEvents (this=this@entry=0xbfa3b7d8, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:149
#38 0x440f5e59 in QEventLoop::exec (this=0xbfa3b7d8, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:204
#39 0x440fb39b in QCoreApplication::exec () at kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp:1218
#40 0x448efee5 in QApplication::exec () at kernel/qapplication.cpp:3823
#41 0x43d183ba in kdemain (argc=1, argv=0xbfa3ba54) at /usr/src/debug/kdelibs-4.10.1/kded/kded.cpp:924
#42 0x0804866c in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfa3ba54) at /usr/src/debug/kdelibs-4.10.1/i686-redhat-linux-gnu/kded/kded4_dummy.cpp:3

Reported using DrKonqi
Comment 1 Christoph Feck 2013-04-15 19:10:00 UTC
If this is reproducible, please try to find out which kded module is responsible for the crash. For more information, see http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/troubleshooting-kded4-bugs/

Good candidates are package/update related modules.
Comment 2 Jerry Nelson 2014-03-29 16:47:09 UTC
Created attachment 85827 [details]
New crash information added by DrKonqi

plasma-desktop (0.4) on KDE Platform 4.8.5 (4.8.5) using Qt 4.8.1

- What I was doing when the application crashed:
Starting March2014
I often return to machine to find a desktop crash has occurred.
My WinXP VM (virtual machine; VMWare Workstation) will still be up, 
but the Kubuntu desktop will not have full functionality.
Side panels may be missing.  
With time, it may become impossible to start a reboot from the GUi.
A terminal session may become necessary to get a reboot -k now.

Again, this is an unattended crash.

- Unusual behavior I noticed:

UNUSUAL GRAPHICS BEHAVIOR
In the WinXP VM, the cursor can degenerate to the display of a rectangular patch (of memory?) about 16mmW x 10mmH sparesly filled with lit pixels of a limited color range.
This UNUSUAL GRAPHICS BEHAVIOR started about the same time in early Mar2014 when the Plasma Desktop unattended crashes began.  

Except for prompt installation of all available updates, there are no machine changes.

This does not feel anything like a classic graphics driver crash to me.  The host OS is providing the VM service calls with a bogus returns for cursor info.  Very  isolated.

-- Backtrace (Reduced):
#6  0x00007fbd59793425 in __GI_raise (sig=<optimized out>) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
#7  0x00007fbd59796b8b in __GI_abort () at abort.c:91
[...]
#12 0x00007fbd569e516c in QEventLoop::exec (this=<optimized out>, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:218
#13 0x00007fbd569e9f67 in QCoreApplication::exec () at kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp:1148
#14 0x00007fbd59b5ea13 in kdemain (argc=1, argv=0x7fffe332f928) at ../../../../plasma/desktop/shell/main.cpp:120
Comment 3 Jerry Nelson 2014-04-04 23:34:38 UTC
Created attachment 85958 [details]
New crash information added by DrKonqi

plasma-desktop (0.4) on KDE Platform 4.8.5 (4.8.5) using Qt 4.8.1

- Custom settings of the application:
SAME PERSON AS "UNUSUAL GRAPHICS BEHAVIOR ABOVE"
This is a clean unattended crash, nothing odd in VMWare WinXP cursor or anything else.
My Kubuntu widgets are:
"Digital Clock"
"Eyes"
"CPU Monitor"
and 3 edge-of-screen panels
1. top, Windows Menu Bar
2. bottom, the launch icons including an "Input Method Panel"
3. left, a panel with a System Tray, launch icons and floating separately,
3B. Lock/Logout (the size of a button). 

The system sometimes spontaneously reboots (gasp!), rather than presenting me with a bug report invitation.   

I emphasize the lack of any changes to the Linux host (save updates).

New software **has*** been added to the VMWare virtual XP machine.

I apologize in advance for the vagueness of all this -- it is not like "perform an operation, get a memory violation and tossed on your ass every time"  (the good old days).  
--jerry

-- Backtrace (Reduced):
#6  0x00007f1cb3c1f425 in __GI_raise (sig=<optimized out>) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
#7  0x00007f1cb3c22b8b in __GI_abort () at abort.c:91
[...]
#12 0x00007f1cb0e7116c in QEventLoop::exec (this=<optimized out>, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:218
#13 0x00007f1cb0e75f67 in QCoreApplication::exec () at kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp:1148
#14 0x00007f1cb3feaa13 in kdemain (argc=1, argv=0x7fff813db118) at ../../../../plasma/desktop/shell/main.cpp:120
Comment 4 Jerry Nelson 2014-04-08 14:22:04 UTC
Created attachment 86003 [details]
New crash information added by DrKonqi

plasma-desktop (0.4) on KDE Platform 4.8.5 (4.8.5) using Qt 4.8.1

- Unusual behavior I noticed:
SAME PERSON AS UNATTENDED CRASH above:
In the degeneracy prior to crash, 
small icons are degenerate, sold color, pattern lost, for
upper right of windows,
"MINIMIZE" button
"MAXIMIZE" button
"CLOSE" botton
On upper left of window
"ALL DESKTOPS" button
"APPLICATION LOGO/MENU" button
In VMWare virtual machine on another desktop:
1. the cursor is degenerate as noted before
2. bottom right, VM hardware icons (hardisk, DVD, NetworkAdapter etc)  are degenerate (solid colors)

All the smallest widgets, always left the same size but with wrong fill of sold color.
Degenerate cursor in VM becomes a larger rectangle and has sparse random pixel fill. 

When I catch degeneracy, I realize now that a lot of the smallest widgets are broken.
After an unattende crash, the system looks clean.
Hope this helps.
--jerry

-- Backtrace (Reduced):
#6  0x00007fc958070425 in __GI_raise (sig=<optimized out>) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
#7  0x00007fc958073b8b in __GI_abort () at abort.c:91
[...]
#12 0x00007fc9552c216c in QEventLoop::exec (this=<optimized out>, flags=...) at kernel/qeventloop.cpp:218
#13 0x00007fc9552c6f67 in QCoreApplication::exec () at kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp:1148
#14 0x00007fc95843ba13 in kdemain (argc=1, argv=0x7fffdb3fe4e8) at ../../../../plasma/desktop/shell/main.cpp:120
Comment 5 Christoph Feck 2014-04-08 18:30:57 UTC
Jerry, your software is very old, please update to newer versions (KDE 4.11.5 or 4.12.x). The crash reports you added are unrelated to the crash of the original reporter.
Comment 6 Jerry Nelson 2014-04-20 18:39:32 UTC
Christoph,

In this note I report my research on how to update KDE, and ask you 
to add your advice at the end.
--jerry

--------------- begin end-user groping notes ----------------
KDE UPDATE BASICS
4/20/2014

Find your current version:
K-InfoCenter on desktop from application launcher
2014: KDE SC Version 4.8.5  ("KDE Software Compilation" suite)
           "KDE" is the K Desktop Environment.
           "K" is ??

Find out the current version:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE

Download a newer version:
How?

THIS INSTALLS EVERYTHING -- NOT JUST AN UPDATE.
Maybe like this.  Ask Christoph Feck
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
The repository list might be at /etc/apt/sources.list

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
or separately as
           sudo apt-get update
           sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
Expect the terminal screen to roll forever.
reboot
Expect a logon screen that offers you the Plasma Desktop/Workspace.
You can create a machine with alternate Ubuntu and KDE desktops this wasy.
--------------- end end-user groping notes ----------------

At 08.04.2014  14:30  Tuesday, you wrote:
>https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318309
>
>--- Comment #5 from Christoph Feck <christoph@maxiom.de> ---
>Jerry, your software is very old, please update to newer versions (KDE 4.11.5
>or 4.12.x). The crash reports you added are unrelated to the crash of the
>original reporter.
>
>--
>You are receiving this mail because:
>You are on the CC list for the bug.
Comment 7 Jerry Nelson 2014-04-20 18:39:40 UTC
Christoph,
In this note I convey the difficulty users face in figuring out their 
relationship to the KDE organization, where to get information, how 
to update their desktop manager software, or even to discover that 
the desktop needs updating and all the update maintenance they are 
doing does not touch the problem.

Please forward the note to people concerned with the relationship of 
the developer community to the larger Linux world and attracting new, 
good users from that larger world.

The last paragraph is for you, of course.
--jerry

BACKGROUND: A developer responded to a user bug report, telling the 
user to update his KDE software.  The user responded with two emails, 
a short one in which he almost discovered where KDE software lives on 
the Web and how to update it, and this email, where he struggled for 
a longer time trying to figure out what KDE is, besides the letter 
"K" in his Kubuntu installation.  The user had no idea that the 
maintenance he performed perfectly on his system did not include any 
updates for the desktop manager.

ACTION REQUIRED:  The KDE development community has a flawed 
relationship to the kind of users they wish to attract in the user 
community.  This letter should be forwarded to more widely-thinking 
KDE people who can generate marketing literature that sells KDE to 
smart but knowledge-lacking people who belong in the community and 
would be happy  there and ultimately contribute to it.

--------------------------- start notes from Lost User 
-------------------------------
Gnome/GNU was born open-source, and has roots in CORBA, which makes 
it enterprise friendly.

KDE Kubuntu's GUI used a proprietary Dutch library, and so
           corporate support of open GUI d'ment
           flowed from RedHat et al to Gnome instead.

Major early open-source developers grew within three particular communities:
--Linux community (originally only the kernel), 1991
-- X-Window (top level GUI) community, centered at MIT
         --X.org, with contributions from RedHat
         --X-free
--GNU (mid-level) libraries, utilities, Richard Stallman Free 
Software Foundation.
           GNOME today springs from these origins.

TODAY's UNIX & LINUX WORLDS USE X-WINDOWS-like TECHNOLOGY
but there are variants.

KDE ("The KDE Software Compilation") and GNOME
are the two main X-window, full environment variants.
"Full" means not just the shell or the windows manager, but also
DISPLAY MANAGERS  (KDM and GDM; they are also the login managers)
THE WIDGET TOOLKITS are Qt for KDE and GTK+  "the Gnome Tool Kit"
BASIC UTILITIES/APPs

SOME KDE & GNOME UTEs/APPs ARE:
--filemanager Dolphin (formerly Konqueror) vs Nautilus
--music player Amarok vs. Rhythmbox
--viewer Gwenview vs Eye of GNOME
--Web browser Konqueror vs.Epiphany

A lot of Web space (chatter) concerns "flavor" choices.
These choices are in the KDE camp:
Kubuntu
Mint
Mate
Cinnamon

This flavor chatter (which is "best") fails to clarify the 
institutional support and larger relationships between the distros 
and the developer communities supporting them.  One sometimes finds 
crumbs of information like this:

Kubuntu differs only in the desktop.
The KDE Plasma Desktop (hence the "K" before ubuntu) replaces the 
Unity graphical environment.
Blue Systems took over as sponsor from Canonical Ltd., and Kubuntu 
will retain use of Ubuntu project servers.  The packages for Ubuntu 
and Kubuntu share the same repositories (you can get both at the same 
place) and the programs will run OK on either system.  Kubuntu 
updates are released regularly on the same schedule as Ubuntu.

These "Mint"and "Cinnamon" flavors are available as distributions to 
install, but, after you install and keep the installation current 
with all updates, a developer might tell you that the KDE part of the 
distro was never automatically updated, and you don't know how to 
find out what revision you have, but it is too old and you don't know 
where to go or how to make it new again.  To find out these things, 
it is important to be polite with developers because they are usually 
generous by nature, and know a lot of info even if they are clueless 
about the rest of the world where people like you live.

These commands will tell you your current versions:

  uname -r   (just the OS; does not know about the desktop manager)
  K-InfoCenter
  -->    OS Version Linux 3.2.0-60-generic
          KDE SC Version 4.8.5

We are working on figuring out where the center of user life is and 
where the updates are hidden.  ww.kde.org/community/whatiskde/ seems 
to be for developers, not users.
--------------------------- end notes from Lost User 
-------------------------------

At 08.04.2014  14:30  Tuesday, you wrote:
>https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318309
>
>--- Comment #5 from Christoph Feck <christoph@maxiom.de> ---
>Jerry, your software is very old, please update to newer versions (KDE 4.11.5
>or 4.12.x). The crash reports you added are unrelated to the crash of the
>original reporter.
>
>--
>You are receiving this mail because:
>You are on the CC list for the bug.
Comment 8 Christoph Feck 2014-04-20 20:18:52 UTC
Jerry, this is a bug tracker, not a support forum for novice users. If you have questions updating your software or distribution, please ask in a support forum of your distribution via http://ubuntuforums.org/
(And please stop replying by private mail)
Comment 9 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-10-31 03:59:20 UTC
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been stagnant for a long time. Could you help us out and re-test if the bug is valid in the latest version? I am setting the status to NEEDSINFO pending your response, please change the Status back to REPORTED when you respond.

Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!
Comment 10 Bug Janitor Service 2018-11-15 10:40:17 UTC
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as
possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug
tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with
no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the
wiki located here:
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging

If you have already provided the requested information, please
mark the bug as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is
ready to be confirmed.

Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!
Comment 11 Bug Janitor Service 2018-11-30 03:53:01 UTC
This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the
wiki located here:
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging

Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!