Bug 303750 - opacity setting missing in title menu usage circumstantial unhandy
Summary: opacity setting missing in title menu usage circumstantial unhandy
Status: RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Alias: None
Product: kwin
Classification: Plasma
Component: compositing (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Ubuntu Linux
: NOR normal
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Assignee: KWin default assignee
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Reported: 2012-07-18 16:51 UTC by Christian
Modified: 2012-08-31 11:44 UTC (History)
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Description Christian 2012-07-18 16:51:06 UTC
Opacity setting missing in title menu (right-click window title).

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. right click window title
2. opacity setting for current window missing
Actual Results:  
Can't be used to trace images from underlying windows easily. Way over window settings is very circumstantial to reach the same results as before.

Expected Results:  
Change window opacity with two clicks instead of the need to open the specific window settings and doing a lot of more work, especially if opacity change is needed multiple times to fit it to the needs.

Kubuntu version 12.04, 32 Bits

What I wanted to do:
Wanted to create a schematic symbol from a graphic by tracing, Kicad does not support importing graphics for symbol creation (like many PCB editors), so I wanted to do it with setting opacity to low and copying graphic by tracing it line by line, doing so is now very circumstantial when there is the need to change opacity in specific window settings dialog.
Comment 1 Thomas Lübking 2012-07-18 17:10:52 UTC
You're aware that you can just alt+scroll on the titlebar?
The window rules are meant to automatically control window aspects for certain windows under certain conditions, not as online attribute mod interface.

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End user help is provided at forum.kde.org
Comment 2 Martin Flöser 2012-07-18 17:38:03 UTC
I created bug #303756 to add scripting support to the menu so that we could 
easily distribute a script to add an opacity menu again.
Comment 3 Christian 2012-07-19 00:17:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> You're aware that you can just alt+scroll on the titlebar?
> The window rules are meant to automatically control window aspects for
> certain windows under certain conditions, not as online attribute mod
> interface.
> 
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> End user help is provided at forum.kde.org

No I wasn't and alt-scrolling at title bar does absolutely nothing for me. You mean holding
alt-key and scroll with the mouse wheel? (just to be sure we mean the same action....)

And why should I be aware, this was available as menu item as long I can think of. Removing it makes not really sense for me, it was good location for that (not obviously) relevant setting. Ingenuous users might think it's just a eye candy feature but it isn't. It's really helpful for tracing images or comparing stuff on maps. I guess there are a lot of possible ways to use it otherwise. Now the usability might have been improved to those who know about it, but I am not sure if people new to KDE would think about the option to alt-scroll the title bar, I found it in the menu once I was new. The question is will you realize about the availability of this option, when you are a new user, what I mean is, I like the new usability and will use it (when it starts working for me) but I think it would be good to put that menu setting back in there as it was.
Comment 4 Thomas Lübking 2012-07-19 06:49:08 UTC
kcmshell4 kwinoptions
titlebar and window options -> configure wheel behavior.

-> this might be a bug indeed because the config was added lately and pot. dopped the former default behavior.

there are now global shortcuts as well (kcmshell4 keys)

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you might have noticed that the entire menu was restructured.
if we'd put every useful kwin feature into the menu, the menu would no more be useful at all.

also using the clientmenu to alter opacity was - as you noticed - not ideal as well (don't suggest to have put a slider there - was my first approach far back then and got replaced by the distinct entries)
Comment 5 Martin Flöser 2012-08-31 11:44:37 UTC
short notice: Review Request https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106285/ contains an extension that scripts can add entries to the Alt+F3 menu and the testing section contains example code for the opacity menu