Today it happened again, that I replied to a message on our internal company mailing list and the answer went to the whole list (all employees) instead of only the single intended recipient. We use mailman as mailing list manager and configured it explicitely to have answers go to the sender only. In the best case this causes great embarassment and lost productivity for the company. In the worst case this causes sensitive information or private communication to be leaked to a whole mailing list. Therefore this should be considered a security problem (which is the reason for choosing a severity of "Critical"). Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. open an email that went to a mailing list 2. hit reply Actual Results: The mailing list's address is in the To field instead of the sender's. Expected Results: The sender's email address is in the To field.
Do you have a "reply-to" header ? is it configurate for reply to your mailing list ?
No. We explicitely configured Mailman to not set a reply-to header, so anwers would _not_ got to the mailing list. The complete header of the message I replied to (anonymized): Return-Path: <mitarbeiter-bounces@text.example> Delivered-To: nine@test.example Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.test.example (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D9E10B504; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:42:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at test.example Received: from mail.test.example ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smithers.test.example [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VfIJ3dGZAnD8; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:42:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.119.52.1] (mail.test.example [10.119.52.4]) by mail.test.example (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52FA10B150; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:42:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: mitarbeiter@mail.test.example Delivered-To: mitarbeiter@mail.test.example Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.test.example (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65B610B510 for <mitarbeiter@mail.test.example>; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:42:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at test.example Received: from mail.test.example ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smithers.test.example [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8OvYcSJic9Eq for <mitarbeiter@mail.test.example>; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:42:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXAMPLEJPPC (gateway.test.example [10.23.81.4]) (Authenticated sender: jp@test.example) by mail.test.example (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 20FD310B504 for <mitarbeiter@test.example>; Thu, 31 May 2012 08:42:47 +0200 (CEST) From: "JP" <jp@test.example> To: <mitarbeiter@test.example> References: <1338445209.c8B41817.56814@mrburns.test.example> In-Reply-To: <1338445209.c8B41817.56814@mrburns.test.example> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:44:19 +0200 Message-ID: <00b101cd3ef8$cdf35420$69d9fc60$@test.example> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQGX/4kgXwMgZ4EsjTQVrWtKeDpcYZdN8QlA Content-Language: de-at Subject: [Mitarbeiter] WG: NEWS LETTER X-BeenThere: mitarbeiter@test.example X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: <mitarbeiter.test.example> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.test.example/mailman/options/mitarbeiter>, <mailto:mitarbeiter-request@test.example?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://mail.test.example/mailman/private/mitarbeiter> List-Post: <mailto:mitarbeiter@test.example> List-Help: <mailto:mitarbeiter-request@test.example?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.test.example/mailman/listinfo/mitarbeiter>, <mailto:mitarbeiter-request@test.example?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2613704516788665952==" Errors-To: mitarbeiter-bounces@test.example Sender: mitarbeiter-bounces@test.example
Which exact Kmail version is this about and is it reproducible with Kmail 4.8.5 or later? Please set the version field accordingly.
Still the same on 4.9.00
Are you aware that KMail offers multiple ways for reply? Right-click a message and check the "reply" submenu. Options are: - Reply - Reply to author - Reply to all - Reply to mailinglist AFAIK "Reply" is the default action when pressing "r", which defaults to reply to the mailinglist if it finds a mailinglist header like List-Post. You might want to use "Reply to author" instead, and maybe change the "r" shortcut to it. (Needless to say that the behaviour of "Reply" isn't the best idea IMHO.)
Yes, I am aware. But it's not enough. Since every user has to learn this the hard way, the default should be sensible. I've seen this happen to every single new kmail user at our company and every time it caused quite some embarassment. Changing keyboard shortcuts does not help if people use the mouse to click on reply. And having to click+hold, wait for a second and hit the right submenu item before releasing, is everything but appropriate for one of the most common actions when using the program.
This bug has only been reported for versions before 4.14, which have been unsupported for at least two years now. Can anyone tell if this bug still present? If noone confirms this bug for a Framework-based version of kmail2 (version 5.0 or later, as part of KDE Applications 15.12 or later), it gets closed in about three months.
Just tested (in KMail 5.3.0, Frameworks 5.25.0) - the strange behaviour of "reply" is still unchanged :-( The "Version" dropdown doesn't offer 5.3.0, and it's unlikely that this was accidently fixed more than 4 years after being reported. Therefore I'm moving this bugreport to "Git (master)".
I have this problem in 5.1.3, with messages from the mailing list going into their own folder. I found that in the Folder Properties dialogue, Mailing List tab, the Post to List address had been set automatically. When I removed this address, replies to private mail went to the correct address.
*** Bug 357464 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***