Bug 279218 - overwhelmed by useless windows and pop-ups
Summary: overwhelmed by useless windows and pop-ups
Status: RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Alias: None
Product: kde
Classification: I don't know
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Gentoo Packages Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unassigned bugs mailing-list
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Reported: 2011-08-02 21:43 UTC by Sergey Kondakov
Modified: 2012-01-30 19:15 UTC (History)
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Description Sergey Kondakov 2011-08-02 21:43:09 UTC
Version:           unspecified (using KDE 4.7.0) 
OS:                Linux

with each new release of KDE there are more and more and more and more and more of absolutely useless windows with "OK, i will masturbate my mouse a little more" button, obstructions in plasma notification area or otherwise.

most recent ones that bothering personally me are:
1) on each login there is a bunch (~3-5) identical plasma messages magging me about nepomuk being disabled. yes, i know, it's disabled because i switched it off because i don't need that shit, thank you very much.
2) with update to 4.7.0 now every time kmail/akonadi tries to check status of mail accounts while network connection is failed it puts error windows with "OK" on my desktop... for every mail account on every try it spawns a new one. today when i looked on the screen after few hours of absence there were at least 70 of them... SEVENTY! and i had to click on each of them and i will have to click on them for a while, i'm sure.
3) same shit only with plasma spamming in bug 275698
4) some more with bug 247615
5) in same situation kopete spawns "unknown error" several rimes and then stops trying to reconnect at all. instead it should say "connectivity to server $X used by account $Y is lost" (for established connections) & "server $X, needed for account $Y, is unreachable" (on new connection fail) once and then silently indefinitely try to reconnect and not to give one more error until it succeeded in reconnection at least once.
same goes for every other KDE app.
6) it's often now that some useless or insignificant window would steal focus from kwallet which asking for master-password even on "average" focus-stealing prevention setting. should i explain the implication ?
7) there is some weird crap going on with "akonadi resources" and KDE session data saving in general. for example:
a) if i push Alt+F2 and write "kmail" there it will come up with 4 answers... yes. one "run kmail", two "KMail" with "mail client" description and one more "KMail" without description. what the hell is that ?
b) if there were 2 konqueror instances with different sets of directories opened in their tabs and i would end KDE session, next time they get "restored" there are 2 konqueror instances with only one, same, set in both. and other one is lost. or sometimes after a month suddenly konqueror with this lost set pops up instead of sets that should.
and no, i didn't "loose" it on different screen, virtual or otherwise. KDE does some weird stuff.
c) akonadi never properly migrates its "resources" (why the hell data is still in random files all around if you already forced full-blown SQL on desktops ?!) properly from KDE 3.5 or some previous version. it pushes some, skips other, puts entries for stuff in ~/.kde3.5 instead of copying it in proper places and makes bogus entries which don't apparently do anything.
most recently, with 4.7.0 update it decided to make about a HUNDRED or more entries for knotes file from ~/.kde3.5 folder. when i removed them (more mouse masturbation), it did it again but only with 1 entry. when i removed it, plasma died and didn't come back. after i launched it manually from ssh, desktop from screen :0,1 been drawn on my main, :0.0, desktop, after a minute it disappeared and akonadi didn't try "migrate" anything since.
8) with update to 4.7.0 shitty little dialog of krunner comes up not only on Alt+F2 but on EVERY SINGLE writable character BUTTON on keyboard. which screws with my hotkeys really good.
and by the way, for KDE folks, who said to me in times of ~4.0 that this krunner dialog is nice new replacement for kicker's command line plugin instead of proper plasmoid - it's still trying to be smarter than me and ignores scripts and commands with preceded variable override like `DISPLAY=:0.1 kdialog --msgbox fail`.

all that looks like clusterfuck of ridiculous overengineered design without any order. i'm sure there are tens of similar examples that i worked around and forgot but what bothers me most is that even if i finally built configuration that don't constantly fail in weird ways something still finds a way to nag me constantly. something absolutely irrelevant i couldn't do or would not want to, as i user, do anything about.

so i ask KDE developers: please, don't put any more damn messages, windows, pop-ups and notifications that say something user can't interpret or should not give two shits about. Windows® UI is good at that and this is not something to compete by.
same goes for unnecessary mouse clicks and overabundance of ways to store/point to user data without any consistency.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
try every KDE release since 4.0.0

Actual Results:  
simple actions require more and more clicks;
simple output becomes more and more unintelligible;
programs nag at user more than user at them;
user waits for programs to get their shit together more than programs wait for user input.

Expected Results:  
reverse.

STOP THAT TREND.
Comment 1 Christoph Feck 2011-08-02 21:58:27 UTC
Please use one report per bug/issue for each application/component.
Comment 2 Sergey Kondakov 2011-08-02 22:40:43 UTC
this is not list. it's examples. i have no intentions listing every single thing that bothering me since there are tens of them and most of them are not glitches and oversights but deliberate design decisions.

someone putted those messages and notifications there per event consciously but without thinking what the hell user supposed to do if he gets hundreds of those events or there for him to seek solution other them complaining here and hoping for year or so that he can finally stop pushing mouse button thousands times per day.
this is "screw making foresight decisions, we will deal with problems after they will get 100 complains" mentality. and it has to stop.

it's it 4.7. SEVEN. and still such idiotic decisions made as putting a window for every akonadi fart. and if only it would be actually used for some feasible user benefit.
Comment 3 Christoph Feck 2011-08-02 23:05:33 UTC
Please don't change the resolution field.
Comment 4 Milko Krachounov 2012-01-30 18:19:59 UTC
It's really a shame that such a grave bug and a major usability issue with KDE 4 is closed as invalid.
Comment 5 Christoph Feck 2012-01-30 19:15:40 UTC
> such a grave bug

It isn't "a bug", but multiple. Those should be reported separately (see comment #1), as the original report is unmanagable. I didn't even know whom I should assign it to.