Bug 266262 - Konversation will not pass data
Summary: Konversation will not pass data
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: konversation
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 1.3.1
Platform: Ubuntu Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konversation Developers
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Reported: 2011-02-14 05:19 UTC by ninja660
Modified: 2011-02-14 23:47 UTC (History)
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Description ninja660 2011-02-14 05:19:24 UTC
Version:           1.3.1 (using Devel) 
OS:                Linux

Konversation will not accept text that has been cut/pasted from Firefox (ie: link from the URL) to the text entry area in Konversation

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
Higlight URL in Firefox and then try to paste the link in Konversation - it refuses to paste the text.

Actual Results:  
Start Firefox & Konversation 1 after the other (wait for load to complete) and then copy a link from Firefox but wind up manually typing the link manually.

Expected Results:  
Text to be pasted.

OS: Linux (i686) release 2.6.35-25-generic
Compiler: cc
Comment 1 Eike Hein 2011-02-14 16:31:55 UTC
Sorry, but this is likely to be some kind of problem on your system that is unrelated to Konversation. Konversation relies on basic Qt functionality to handle copy and paste, I personally paste text from Firefox in Konversation probably around 60-80 times per day, and there have been no other reports of such a problem - given Firefox' popularity, it's very unlikely nobody would report this if it were a systemic, application-specific problem.

One thing does come to mind: You may not know that in the X Window System, the application you copy from is responsible for handing over the data on paste. This means that when the application you copy from is quit before pasting, it won't work. KDE has an application called Klipper, auto-started by default (shows up as a tray icon), that papers over this by assuming responsibility for the data when you copy, in effect becoming the application that hands over the data on paste. Other desktop environments have equivalents. If you don't have Klipper or one of these equivalents running it may account for what you're seeing if you quit Firefox before pasting.

I'm going to close this as WORKSFORME now, as the propability of this being a Konversation problem is near-zero and you're better off not hanging your hopes on this ticket but rather researching other causes.
Comment 2 ninja660 2011-02-14 23:15:41 UTC
I am using Ubuntu 10.04 using the standard desktop install so there is nothing unique about my system that would cause this to be computer related issue.  It is either Konveration of Ubuntu which is not passing the link/data properly.  Normally, I cut & paste to Open Office just fine as well.  This is a recent version of Ubuntu as it was a net install and there were no failures according to the system logs or boot logs.  I was also surprised that when I pulled the install for Konversation it pulled the mySql installer (core) and other components.  I am using Synaptic to pull from the Ubuntu repositories and they have not been altered from the install.  So, that leads me to the issue it *has* to be on konversation not the system.  I am running Firefox beta 10 too (which was in the build - so that could be the problem too.)  I've had strange encounters with Firefox Beta on Windows too.    BTW, Firefox was not closed when trying to cut/paste from Firefox - Konversation would not even see the data that was cut from Firefox yet Open Office did - so i know the data was there.

> From: hein@kde.org
> To: ninja660@hotmail.com
> Subject: [Bug 266262] Konversation will not pass data
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:32:01 +0100
> 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266262
> 
> 
> Eike Hein <hein@kde.org> changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
>                  CC|                            |hein@kde.org
>          Resolution|                            |WORKSFORME
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Comment #1 from Eike Hein <hein kde org>  2011-02-14 16:31:55 ---
> Sorry, but this is likely to be some kind of problem on your system that is
> unrelated to Konversation. Konversation relies on basic Qt functionality to
> handle copy and paste, I personally paste text from Firefox in Konversation
> probably around 60-80 times per day, and there have been no other reports of
> such a problem - given Firefox' popularity, it's very unlikely nobody would
> report this if it were a systemic, application-specific problem.
> 
> One thing does come to mind: You may not know that in the X Window System, the
> application you copy from is responsible for handing over the data on paste.
> This means that when the application you copy from is quit before pasting, it
> won't work. KDE has an application called Klipper, auto-started by default
> (shows up as a tray icon), that papers over this by assuming responsibility for
> the data when you copy, in effect becoming the application that hands over the
> data on paste. Other desktop environments have equivalents. If you don't have
> Klipper or one of these equivalents running it may account for what you're
> seeing if you quit Firefox before pasting.
> 
> I'm going to close this as WORKSFORME now, as the propability of this being a
> Konversation problem is near-zero and you're better off not hanging your hopes
> on this ticket but rather researching other causes.
> 
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Comment 3 Eike Hein 2011-02-14 23:19:35 UTC
I'm using Firefox nightlies here - anyway, there's simply no way that I can conceive of that this could be Konversation, sorry. And if that was a failure of my limited imagination and it were a problem with Konversation, I'd either be seeing it, too, or it would have been previously reported.
Comment 4 ninja660 2011-02-14 23:47:33 UTC
I am using Ubuntu 10.04 using the standard desktop install so there is nothing unique about my system that would cause this to be computer related issue.  It is either Konveration of Ubuntu which is not passing the link/data properly.  Normally, I cut & paste to Open Office just fine as well.  This is a recent version of Ubuntu as it was a net install and there were no failures according to the system logs or boot logs.  I was also surprised that when I pulled the install for Konversation it pulled the mySql installer (core) and other components.  I am using Synaptic to pull from the Ubuntu repositories and they have not been altered from the install.  So, that leads me to the issue it *has* to be on konversation not the system.  I am running Firefox beta 10 too (which was in the build - so that could be the problem too.)  I've had strange encounters with Firefox Beta on Windows too.    BTW, Firefox was not closed when trying to cut/paste from Firefox - Konversation would not even see the data that was cut from Firefox yet Open Office did - so i know the data was there.

> From: hein@kde.org
> To: ninja660@hotmail.com
> Subject: [Bug 266262] Konversation will not pass data
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:32:01 +0100
> 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266262
> 
> 
> Eike Hein <hein@kde.org> changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
>                  CC|                            |hein@kde.org
>          Resolution|                            |WORKSFORME
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Comment #1 from Eike Hein <hein kde org>  2011-02-14 16:31:55 ---
> Sorry, but this is likely to be some kind of problem on your system that is
> unrelated to Konversation. Konversation relies on basic Qt functionality to
> handle copy and paste, I personally paste text from Firefox in Konversation
> probably around 60-80 times per day, and there have been no other reports of
> such a problem - given Firefox' popularity, it's very unlikely nobody would
> report this if it were a systemic, application-specific problem.
> 
> One thing does come to mind: You may not know that in the X Window System, the
> application you copy from is responsible for handing over the data on paste.
> This means that when the application you copy from is quit before pasting, it
> won't work. KDE has an application called Klipper, auto-started by default
> (shows up as a tray icon), that papers over this by assuming responsibility for
> the data when you copy, in effect becoming the application that hands over the
> data on paste. Other desktop environments have equivalents. If you don't have
> Klipper or one of these equivalents running it may account for what you're
> seeing if you quit Firefox before pasting.
> 
> I'm going to close this as WORKSFORME now, as the propability of this being a
> Konversation problem is near-zero and you're better off not hanging your hopes
> on this ticket but rather researching other causes.
> 
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