Bug 254313 - kinfocenter should show S.M.A.R.T and notify if a Disccrash is near
Summary: kinfocenter should show S.M.A.R.T and notify if a Disccrash is near
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: kinfocenter
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Ubuntu Linux
: HI normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: David Hubner
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Reported: 2010-10-15 23:55 UTC by Fabian B.
Modified: 2022-09-04 10:20 UTC (History)
12 users (show)

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Version Fixed In: 5.20
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Description Fabian B. 2010-10-15 23:55:09 UTC
Version:           unspecified (using KDE 4.5.1) 
OS:                Linux

i want to ask if someone can add a smart section to the kinfocenter that give a notification if the disc may crash. (because my dads laptop hdd is broken today and we have not taken a "final" backup for) i think this is a very very very(!) important feature

Reproducible: Didn't try
Comment 1 David Hubner 2010-12-29 15:42:06 UTC
I admit, I like this idea. I shall put it on my TODO list
Comment 2 Samuel Suther 2011-01-21 15:21:50 UTC
Thats realy needed. I installed GNOME only for testing - i'm glöad to do this, cause after starting gnome the smart-notifyer from gnome tells me my hdd will break soon.

Now i have change my hdd, but i wonder why kde didn't have such a usefull toll activated by default.

Thats clearly a MUST HAVE for KDE!!!!
Comment 3 Karsten 2011-01-27 11:04:24 UTC
That's a MUST HAVE. I think it's have to activated by default. It's really necessary!
Comment 4 benni 2011-03-15 16:09:30 UTC
I agree, this is really a MUST have. Especially for a wide spread desktop!
+20 votes!
Comment 5 quentin.denis 2016-01-06 20:49:55 UTC
+1
Comment 6 Serhiy Zahoriya 2020-02-06 12:52:30 UTC
Can you please add a comment about the recent Importance changes? https://bugs.kde.org/show_activity.cgi?id=254313
Comment 7 Nate Graham 2020-02-06 14:41:41 UTC
I think "critical" makes sense for this bug's severity. Without the warning requested here, the user's data can be irreparably destroyed. This meets the requirements of the critical status outlined in https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging#Severity:

"A widespread, easily reproducible issue that causes data loss."

Harald would you be interested in implementing this given your recent work and familiarity with KinfoCenter stuff? I think it would ideally be implemented not only in KInfoCenter, but also with a critical notification just like the "you're about to fill up your hard drive" notification.
Comment 8 Kai Uwe Broulik 2020-02-06 14:43:52 UTC
"easily reproducible" because we thrash hard disks left and right, don't we? But yeah, if you think so.. it's just that this bug will come up every time before a release and realistically nobody will care about it 3 months from now either.
Comment 9 Nate Graham 2020-02-06 14:47:24 UTC
Then someone should care about it. :) The user's data is the most important thing to care about. We should warn them if it's about to be destroyed by an impending hardware failure.
Comment 10 Harald Sitter 2020-02-06 15:05:36 UTC
This is already on my radar and I am talking with people about it. It's not an easy change (because it requires some restructuring in kpmcore), it's also not a quick change, and I do agree with Kai that it's not critical either.

HDDs and SSDs do not live forever, they never did, this isn't a new development, nor is it a wide spread problem as you'd have to run a disk 24/7 for substantial amounts of time under substantial amount of load to see it fail (more so for HDDs than SSDs of course). The average user is much more likely to encounter failure from accidents than from regular wear. On top of that, SMART data is only partly helping, a drive can absolutely fail without prior warning signs and the other way around there can be warning signs but the disk continues to operate fine for many more years.

Eduardo Pinheiro et al published a good paper on the matter a long while ago:
https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//archive/disk_failures.pdf

We definitely want a SMART monitor. Albeit not critically. If one has important data then data retention should probably involve two or more disks and ideally at least one shouldn't be from the 80s :)
Comment 11 David Edmundson 2020-05-14 09:40:00 UTC
> Albeit not critically

Changing status as being critical affects our release policy. It can't be critical to have a new feature, that makes no sense. Instead I've bumped importance.
Comment 12 Harald Sitter 2020-08-25 12:27:48 UTC
https://invent.kde.org/system/plasma-disks is heading towards Plasma 5.20 resolving this.
Comment 13 Nate Graham 2020-08-25 13:52:24 UTC
Hooray!