Bug 251480 - Typographic characters clash with diacritic characters (Alt Key)
Summary: Typographic characters clash with diacritic characters (Alt Key)
Status: RESOLVED UPSTREAM
Alias: None
Product: systemsettings
Classification: Applications
Component: kcm_keyboard_layout (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Ubuntu Linux
: NOR minor
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Andriy Rysin
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Reported: 2010-09-16 19:58 UTC by Wojciech Ryrych
Modified: 2010-11-21 17:39 UTC (History)
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simple mock up (12.16 KB, image/png)
2010-09-21 18:32 UTC, Wojciech Ryrych
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Description Wojciech Ryrych 2010-09-16 19:58:20 UTC
Version:           unspecified (using KDE 4.5.1) 
OS:                Linux

First, I'd like to thank you for typographic characters! I've just found them and find them very useful. But there is one caveat. I use both Alt keys for special Polish characters like ą or ń. When I enabled typographic characters I could not use diacritic ones. 

There should be switch for typo characters. Even toggle option (special sequence for enabling them - type them - toggle and back to normal state).

Could you repair it? Thanks for advance!

Reproducible: Always




OS: Linux (i686) release 2.6.35-999-generic
Compiler: cc
Comment 1 Andriy Rysin 2010-09-17 03:53:32 UTC
If I got the report right the problem is key to symbol mapping, you'll have to file a bug against xkeyboard-config project on freedesktop.org
Though you probably will need better description of the problem if you do. :)
Comment 2 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-09-17 14:01:48 UTC
So, typographic characters are treated like a keyboard layout?
Actually I don't know how to fill in a good report for xkeyboard-config. :(
Which other information should I mention?
Comment 3 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-09-17 15:27:30 UTC
One more thing. Couldn't it just use some modifier for typographic character like it is did for compose key? 
I figured out that typographic characters is just normal layout plus just these characters in second level (ALT key). So we should have had configurable modifier for this level or shift it to third or fourth level. I know you guys have skills to do that. :D
Comment 4 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-09-21 18:22:05 UTC
Hm, there's no feedback since my last posts.
I really don't think changing modifier from ALT (now) to predefined ones (like Meta) is upstream issue.

As I mentioned above there is option for compose key (my current replacement for typographic characters) to choose from various modifiers like left or right Meta.
Wouldn't it possible to do the same with typographic characters instead using one trigger (ALT)?
Comment 5 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-09-21 18:32:51 UTC
Created attachment 51866 [details]
simple mock up

Typographic characters is an additional keyboard layout. There should be a trigger key to enable it.
Comment 6 Andriy Rysin 2010-09-25 19:11:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> Hm, there's no feedback since my last posts.
Well as far as I know keyboard-config maintainer does not have newborn kids (as i do) so you most probably will get faster answer from him :)
Comment 7 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-09-25 21:21:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> Well as far as I know keyboard-config maintainer does not have newborn kids (as
> i do) so you most probably will get faster answer from him :)
Congratulation then :D
but you did not refer to my mock up. I still don't know if my reasoning is correct. :)
Comment 8 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-11-01 21:40:00 UTC
^
Sorry Andriy but you have not replied me. :(
Comment 9 Andriy Rysin 2010-11-14 18:22:33 UTC
Well, here's the thing Wojciech — I am trying to close bugs that don't belong to KDE keyboard module so that I can concentrate on the ones I can help with or fix. We can keep this one open though something tells me that during those two months since this issue was reported it could have been solved by now at xkeyboard-config bug system. :)
Maintainer of xkeyboard-config is quite a nice guy so there's no reason to avoid him :)
Comment 10 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-11-14 21:42:54 UTC
OK, thanks for your patience and understanding. I've filled this bug report there:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31623

so let's see how it'll go. :)
Comment 11 Andriy Rysin 2010-11-20 17:15:20 UTC
Looks like it's really a problem with xkeyboard-config (with no obvious resultion). 	Wojciech, shall we mark this one RESOLVED/UPSTREAM?
Comment 12 Wojciech Ryrych 2010-11-21 16:15:03 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> Looks like it's really a problem with xkeyboard-config (with no obvious
> resultion).     Wojciech, shall we mark this one RESOLVED/UPSTREAM?

Yeah, you definitely should in this case. :)
Comment 13 Andriy Rysin 2010-11-21 17:39:23 UTC
Thanks, marking as RESOLVED/UPSTREAM.