Version: unspecified (using Devel) OS: Linux I don't know that the reasoning behind the new system tray changes were (I haven't read the mailing list lately), but the new system tray is awful: 1. The new colorless, low-contrast icons are hard to see. For instance, the muted KMix icon looks like a little triangle and nothing like a musted speaker. 2. It makes the system tray look highly inconsistent, since some icons have the new colorless look, and others look normal. 3. Apparently these icons are not from the Oxygen icon theme, so there is no obvious way to replace them if I don't like the new look. If I don't use KDE, and open KDE applications that go in the tray, they appear normally. 4. And lastly, these colorless icons don't even work - right-clicking them doesn't do anything, so, for instance, Klipper becomes practically useless since it does nothing. At one point, due to some glitch, the icons became normal, like in KDE 4.4, so it appears as if Plasma is actually replacing them... But why? Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Create new user 2. Log in 3. Right-click the scissors icon Actual Results: Nothing happens Expected Results: The Klipper menu should pop up
you mix too many reports into one bugreport. One is that you don't like the icons. the second is that you can't change the icons and the third is that there seems to be a problem with clicking on the icons for you. While i agree that the new icons are not what i prefer and i too would like an option to keep the old ones, its more of a wishlist item than a bugreport. For the rightclick i don't know, i think there is already a report about it. i'll keep that bugreport open for now, but it probably is going to be closed soon.
the right click issue is about an incompatible version of dbus-menu installed, let's see if the problem pops up in other reports but it's very likely a packaging issue. and yes, each one should have been reported separately and they're more opinions than anything else so not very adapt to this place
(In reply to comment #2) > the right click issue is about an incompatible version of dbus-menu installed, > let's see if the problem pops up in other reports but it's very likely a > packaging issue. What is the correct version that should be installed? I'm sure the downstream would like to know. I have: libdbusmenu-qt 0.3.2 sys-apps/dbus 1.2.24 Also, I'm running Qt 4.7 beta 1 > and yes, each one should have been reported separately and they're more > opinions than anything else so not very adapt to this place Sorry, I was going to report the right-click issue but I went a bit overboard... I'll go ahead and re-report them.
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This mix of colored and white icons is really ugly. Is there any serious reason for having a random set of icons in a tray under non default icon scheme?
monochrome and so on ..... OK so do you see any non app icon without an proper monochrome icon? The problem is that may apps use the system try as a task-bar, this is the fundamental problem, apps that could share allot of the underlying functionality just put their own little flag in the system-try as soon as they decide what is common between them and how it should be displayed I'm sure I can do them an icon. Right now its a mess and the monochrome icons are a first step in fixing it. About the ugliness well, I have way more positive feedback on them than negative and already closed some bugs on the account of the new ones improved contrast.
I think this is like a Don Quiote tilting at windmills. New icons aren't bad, actually they seem pretty nice. Except for KMix where I find it more difficult to determine if it's muted or not and KNetworkManager* which looks too similar to the KMix. The real problem is that there are way too many applications which put colored icons to the system tray (Amarok, Opera, Pidgin, KTorrent…). And when it happens nice and consistent set of monochrome icons became PITA because they look too different. It doesn't affect only system tray. I used to put battery monitor and device notifier next to the application launchers which are colored too. When these icons were colored it looked quite nice (it wasn't really consistent but there wasn't any big inconsistency) but now it doesn't look very well. Again, monochrome icons are way too different. Back to the non-app colored icon – keyboard layout switcher is colored. But I guess Michal is talking about the fact that systray icons doesn't have the same style as other icons (application, buttons) in oxygen. * I'm not sure whether it's part of current KDE or if it's OpenSuSE specific
Yes, the monochrome icons, while they don't look bad, usualy don't fit if you have other apps, especially non kde apps open, and this happens all the time. So while i think the monochrome icons are a good idea, an option to use them (can be a hidden option for 4.5 because of string freeze), would for sure be a good idea. But, this is obviously a question of taste and art, and we all know that one will never find something that pleases everybody (thats why i would go for the configuration option). But this is certainly not a live changing issue
the icons are in the desktop svg theme, so they are themable. they are also grouped together (as they are grouped by category, e.g. hardware vs general apps). most of the app icons will eventually be leaving the system tray, but even where they are now not only is it a purposeful design decision but has been met with pretty much overwhelmingly positive feedback. yes, it's impossible to satisfy everyone's aesthetic taste, but that doesn't mean we are therefore inable to make decisions as a result. as for the right clicking issue, that is absolutely an installation issue.
(In reply to comment #6) > monochrome and so on ..... Hi Nuno. I'm not againts monochrome icons, I'm sure they looks great and you did a great job here. I like them. What I dislike is the inconsistency - it's not only about the other icons. For instance setting dialog contains the old colored ones too. > > OK so do you see any non app icon without an proper monochrome icon? > Don't know - is the keyboard switcher app or not? But it might be easy to create the monochromatic icons for that, the keyboard code without a flag would be enough.
A set of Plasma (>=4.5) system tray icons matching (using icons from) the Oxygen icon theme is now available from: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=134914 *** BRING SOME COLOR INTO YOUR PLASMA >= 4.5.0 SYSTEM TRAY! ***
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 243387 ***