Bug 201483 - monolithic: need final icons
Summary: monolithic: need final icons
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Alias: None
Product: Network Management
Classification: Miscellaneous
Component: Plasma Widget (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Compiled Sources Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Will Stephenson
URL:
Keywords:
: 203098 275015 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2009-07-25 20:48 UTC by Daniel Rocher
Modified: 2011-08-30 21:09 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Latest Commit:
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Attachments
use gnome applet-network-manager animation (4.84 KB, patch)
2010-05-14 17:18 UTC, Daniel Rocher
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Description Daniel Rocher 2009-07-25 20:48:25 UTC
Version:            (from SVN)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Ubuntu

monolithic icon is not very visible in tray icon with some themes, for example: Theme Air (see snapshoot : http://imagebin.org/57121 )


Thanks
Comment 1 Will Stephenson 2009-07-26 07:32:30 UTC
All the icons are preliminary

Please set the Platform field carefully when you report a bug, otherwise it looks like your distro are already distributing unreleased code when you are really using SVN yourself.
Comment 2 Daniel Rocher 2009-07-26 15:51:39 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> All the icons are preliminary

OK

> Please set the Platform field carefully when you report a bug, otherwise it
> looks like your distro are already distributing unreleased code when you are
> really using SVN yourself.

Sorry. I build kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase, kdeartwork and kde4's networkmanagement from SVN (trunk).

thanks
Comment 3 Will Stephenson 2009-08-11 13:08:07 UTC
*** Bug 203098 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Adam Porter 2010-05-11 18:36:26 UTC
The icon is still quite poor in the version released in Kubuntu Lucid.  Here are some notable problems:

1.  It's not the least bit obvious that it represents wireless networking at all.  It has neither vertical nor arched signal bars, both of which are standard on both laptops and cell phones.

2.  The little square black and white icon in the lower left corner, which seems to change with connection status, is so small that even though I know it has something to do with status, I can't tell what it means.  It's useless.

3.  The colors make the signal bar difficult to read, even though I know what it is.

Please, for goodness' sake, just use the one that GNOME is using in Ubuntu.   It's perfectly clear, it looks pleasant, and it looks standard.  Even the KNetworkManager 0.6.6 in Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy was perfectly clear and pleasant, but this one in Lucid is awful.
Comment 5 Daniel Rocher 2010-05-14 17:18:01 UTC
Created attachment 43587 [details]
use gnome applet-network-manager animation
Comment 6 Daniel Rocher 2010-05-14 17:27:55 UTC
I created a package for Lucid uses icons from GNOME (animation):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mklyoh09v1s

To use it in Lucid:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:daniel-rocher/ppa
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

and restart your session.
Comment 7 Sebastian Kügler 2010-05-14 18:57:24 UTC
Thanks for the patch, Daniel!

I'm less than convinced, as the patch changes knetworkmanager from "the icon is hardly visible" to "sticks out like a sore thumb". GNOME's NM artwork is really not that great and looks dated. It also totally does not fit the new, monochrome system tray.

For the plasmoid, we already have new artwork, it would be better to integrate that with KNM, instead of using GNOME's artwork which looks dated and out of place.
Comment 8 Daniel Rocher 2010-05-14 21:24:55 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> I'm less than convinced, as the patch changes knetworkmanager from "the icon is
> hardly visible" to "sticks out like a sore thumb". GNOME's NM artwork is really
> not that great and looks dated. It also totally does not fit the new,
> monochrome system tray.

I agree completely
 
> For the plasmoid, we already have new artwork, it would be better to integrate
> that with KNM

I don't know this artwork, it is much better. Thank you for this information.
Comment 9 Lamarque V. Souza 2011-04-05 06:45:53 UTC
Is this bug still relevant or can I close it? Monolithic knetworkmanager is unmaintained.
Comment 10 Adam Porter 2011-05-17 10:23:57 UTC
The Plasma widget for Network Manager uses the same icons and has the same issue.  Looking at it now (Kubuntu Natty), there's this tiny little square in the lower right corner that is unintelligible.  Compare this to the GNOME 2/Unity applet--that one looks so much better than the one in KDE right now.  :(
Comment 11 Lamarque V. Souza 2011-05-17 18:22:27 UTC
I do not see any square at the lower right corner, the "Manage Connection" button is at the lower right corner.

I will reopen the bug, but I am not goint to take any action about it for a long time. I have plenty of other more important problems to solve in Plasma NM.
Comment 12 Adam Porter 2011-05-18 23:05:42 UTC
I'm sorry, it turns out my laptop still had the knetworkmanager
package installed--upgrading to Natty didn't replace it with
plasma-widget-networkmanagement, which doesn't have this little square
overlay.  They really ought to have transitioned it automatically,
IMHO.

Now, however, after killing knetworkmanager and installing the widget,
NM became disconnected, and there is no way to reconnect it!  Even
using nmcli, there's just no way to get the wifi interface to connect
to anything at all.  I had to reboot to make the connection work
again.  I guess I'll have to file yet another bug.  (Will NM and/or
its GUIs ever not be broken?  There's been basic broken functionality
ever since it was first released.)

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:22, Lamarque V. Souza <lamarque@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201483
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> Lamarque V. Souza <lamarque@gmail.com> changed:
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>           What    |Removed                     |Added
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>             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
>         Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO              |
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> --- Comment #11 from Lamarque V. Souza <lamarque gmail com>  2011-05-17 18:22:27 ---
> I do not see any square at the lower right corner, the "Manage Connection"
> button is at the lower right corner.
>
> I will reopen the bug, but I am not goint to take any action about it for a
> long time. I have plenty of other more important problems to solve in Plasma
> NM.
>
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Comment 13 arne anka 2011-05-18 23:08:26 UTC
@#12: check if in nm the "wireless enabled" checkbox is checked! after upgrading my netbook to natty i had the same issue (wifi would not connect although shown as available by iwconfig). took me some time to figure that out ...
Comment 14 Adam Porter 2011-05-18 23:49:58 UTC
Yes, everything was checked.  There was simply no list of wireless
networks in the widget, and no "connect" button.

When I ran (nmcli con), all that showed up was:

NAME                      UUID                                   TYPE
            SCOPE    TIMESTAMP-REAL
Ifupdown (eth0)           681b428f-beaf-8932-dce4-687ed5bae28e
802-3-ethernet    system   never
NAME                      UUID                                   TYPE
            SCOPE    TIMESTAMP-REAL

Whereas now, after rebooting, it shows:

NAME                      UUID                                   TYPE
            SCOPE    TIMESTAMP-REAL
Ifupdown (eth0)           681b428f-beaf-8932-dce4-687ed5bae28e
802-3-ethernet    system   never
NAME                      UUID                                   TYPE
            SCOPE    TIMESTAMP-REAL
The Disarray              5fd3685d-92f7-4ef4-8533-ec69fe48dbf8
802-11-wireless   user     Wed 18 May 2011 03:50:43 PM CDT
Valencia                  d1038ef0-853c-49c8-a80f-9aea4a56e482
802-11-wireless   user     Thu 13 Jan 2011 07:05:58 PM CST

Killing knetworkmanager apparently totally breaks NetworkManager.  It
even set [ifupdown] to managed=false in
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf!  But even after changing it
to managed=true and even after restarting the network-manager service
several times, it still didn't work!  I had to reboot!  (What is this,
Windows?  IMHO NetworkManager is fundamentally broken and should be
thrown out.)

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 16:08, arne anka <kde-bugs@ginguppin.de> wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201483
>
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> --- Comment #13 from arne anka <kde-bugs ginguppin de>  2011-05-18 23:08:26 ---
> @#12: check if in nm the "wireless enabled" checkbox is checked! after
> upgrading my netbook to natty i had the same issue (wifi would not connect
> although shown as available by iwconfig). took me some time to figure that out
> ...
>
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Comment 15 Lamarque V. Souza 2011-05-19 00:06:34 UTC
Have you checked if the networkmanagement service is running? Go in systemsettings -> Startup and Shutdown. In the lower panel named "Services loaded during startup" (or something like that, mine is in Brazilian Portuguese) can you see if the service "NetworkManager user configurator" (or something like that) is marked as started?

If no then make select it, check the checkbox to start at session load and click in the start button to start it right away.

Also send me the output of this command:

qdbus org.kde.networkmanagement
Comment 16 Adam Porter 2011-05-19 03:14:24 UTC
I don't think the bug was in knetworkmanager nor the Plasma widget,
but in NetworkManager.  Even nmcli wouldn't work, and restarting the
service didn't help.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 17:06, Lamarque V. Souza <lamarque@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201483
>
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>
>
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> --- Comment #15 from Lamarque V. Souza <lamarque gmail com>  2011-05-19 00:06:34 ---
> Have you checked if the networkmanagement service is running? Go in
> systemsettings -> Startup and Shutdown. In the lower panel named "Services
> loaded during startup" (or something like that, mine is in Brazilian
> Portuguese) can you see if the service "NetworkManager user configurator" (or
> something like that) is marked as started?
>
> If no then make select it, check the checkbox to start at session load and
> click in the start button to start it right away.
>
> Also send me the output of this command:
>
> qdbus org.kde.networkmanagement
>
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Comment 17 Lamarque V. Souza 2011-06-06 08:29:08 UTC
*** Bug 275015 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 18 Lamarque V. Souza 2011-08-30 21:09:57 UTC
I will close this bug as fixed since the original bug was fixed in the plasmoid version. Other questions about the systray wifi icon please go to http://bugs.kde.org/275707

@Adam Porter, if you still have problems making the plasmoid work please fill in another bug entry.