Version: 1.0.0-beta1 (using 4.2.95 (KDE 4.2.95 (KDE 4.3 RC1)), Mandriva Linux release 2010.0 (Cooker) for i586) Compiler: gcc OS: Linux (i686) release 2.6.30-desktop-2mnb i load photo in digikam i see there data in Exif and iptc synchronizing is well checked in xmp properties i close digikam i open digikam there is nothing in xmp. is it normal ? it is not automatical ? i synchronize photos with digikam db then i have comments in xmp but i am very disappointed because there is nothing but comments copied from exif,iptc, digikam db. is it normal ?
What's your settings from metadata setup ? Take a shot. Metadata are written in files if you perform an action from Caption & Tags or with Tools/Sync... menu entry. Gilles Caulier
Created attachment 34944 [details] metadata setting metadata setting
And what do you see in Metadata side bar from the right side of digiKam ? Gilles Caulier
Created attachment 34945 [details] metadata in the right panel
where are tags , gps data, date ?
Exif... Gilles caulier
in this context this means where in xmp are tags,gps data, date i need this to use it with jalbum
You are talking about copying the whole EXIF data to its corresponding exif: namespace in XMP, a sort of "legacy EXIF" -> XMP migration, is it?
1. whole why not in the future to manage only one packet of data the aim is to replace exif, iptc by xmp, no ? today i must keep exif and iptc for picasaweb 2. today it would be a good thing to copy legend, date & time, tags, gps data for my photos web serveur jalbum
>whole why not in the future to manage only one packet of data >the aim is to replace exif, iptc by xmp, no ? no XMP do not replace Exif. only IPTC. In fact not all Exif information can be fork to XMP, and all makernote data are lost. Exif : camera informations Xmp : photographer + post processing informations. Gilles Caulier
Created attachment 34961 [details] xmp block see the shot of the xmp block i take the shot of a jalbum settings windows you see : date,CreateDate, ModifyDate, DateTimeOriginal title, subject, description, Label (tags ?) GPSLongitude, GPSLongitudeRef, GPSLatitude, GPSLatitudeRef, GPSAltitude, GPSAltitudeRef
>date,CreateDate, ModifyDate, DateTimeOriginal >title, subject, description, Label (tags ?) All these _tags_ are managed by digiKam to duplicates values from Exif to XMP. Just set on the right option in metadata settings panel. >GPSLongitude, GPSLongitudeRef, GPSLatitude, GPSLatitudeRef, GPSAltitude, GPSAltitudeRef For this one, i'm not yet sure... Gilles Caulier
Important : in digiKam there is not option to sync XMP with Exif/Iptc. This is what you want ??? Gilles Caulier
No, XMP GPS tags are not drived currently. Only Exif tags... http://lxr.kde.org/source/KDE/kdegraphics/libs/libkexiv2/libkexiv2/kexiv2gps.cpp#275 Gilles Caulier
(In reply to comment #12) ok i will test but perhaps later because i prepare ... a new bike trekking.
(In reply to comment #13) > Important : in digiKam there is not option to sync XMP with Exif/Iptc. This is > what you want ??? > > Gilles Caulier how to say ? knowing the working rules of digikam i was expecting by default this is the case. For me there is there an heterogeneity. i was surprising.
SVN commit 990026 by cgilles: libkexiv2 from trunk : handle GPS info from XMP (Read/Write) CCBUGS: 198406 M +180 -74 kexiv2gps.cpp WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=990026
i review all my needs i need to work with picasa then i need exif and iptc i need to work with jalbum and i want to work with xmp then i need xmp i need the ability to ask to digikam in one command to synchronize for all my albums, for all my photos the common data from exif, iptc to xmp i need this synchronization is automatical for any new photo today i need in xmp : all about date all about geolocalisation (today no ability to ask synchronization) all about legend (only this works but not automatical) all about sublocation,location,states,country name (today no ability to ask synchronization) all about tags (today no ability to ask synchronization) please add the management of country name (you only display it). in digikam there is only contry code management becareful about iptc ascii tags. digikam must convert them to unicode and must give the ability to user to ask "please do not convert to unicode because it is already unicode"
If I remember correctly there were plans to support porting EXIF and IPTC to XMP directly as core functionality of exiv2?
Marcel, An Exiv2 plan yes, already implement i don't think... I CC Andreas to get more info about Gilles
Gilles, Marcel, Conversion functionality has been available since version 0.17: http://www.exiv2.org/doc/convert_8hpp.html The latest XMP specs has more details on conversions, some of which are not yet implemented: http://dev.exiv2.org/issues/show/601 Andreas
Radical idea: drop direct IPTC support (similar to FotoStation). If possible write data to IPTC field corresponding to XMP if not, pity (most important have clear "cousins" so shouldn't be issue). If imported image has IPTC fields but not XMP - populate XMP fields and use directly only them. The only problem would be situation when imported image has IPTC and XMP corresponding fields which would be different. Importing tool should in such cases ask what to do: Choose XMP version, Choose IPTC version, Choose later - in meantime values would be merged into one value and written to both sets of data.
I am currently favoring the idea to honor the the Metadata Working Group Guidance for these XMP vs. Exif/IPTC cases. This can be something to talk about on a coding sprint if Andreas Huggel is present as well. It states that IPTC should not be written to unless already present; and unless consumers will read the file the dont read XMP. This case, however, cannot generally be excluded for us.
today i install again Mandriva 2010.0a1 thus i installed digikam 1.0.0b2 directly and not after 1.0.0b1 to test when first opening digikam with the assistant i select "to copy metadata in image" i copied some pictures i manage with digikam 0.9.6 i synchronize album with db i see nothing in xmp i close digikam i open digikam i see what you see in "metadata in the right panel" joined capture i close digikam i open gwenview i see the metadata, surprise ! i seee many dates, user comment, tags list (see gwenview capture) then i open digikam then i don't see : - more data than when i first opendigikam after synchronizing with db - not all but a great part of what i see in gwenview : many dates, user comment, tags list see the new metadata capture for my purpose i miss only : - sublocation - location - city - state - country - gps - data in xmp
in my comment #24 replace "i don't see" by "i see"
Created attachment 35158 [details] what metadata i see in xmp in gwenview
Created attachment 35159 [details] what new metadata i see in xmp in digikam
in my comment #24 delete "- data in xmp" at the end
1)Can you give a concise summary which values you want to have written into XMP? 2) As to your comments #26 and #27: This relates to any values missing in the XMP panel in digikam but shown in gwenview? Please send me a sample picture (to my private mail address, if the file is big)
(In reply to comment #29) > 1)Can you give a concise summary which values you want to have written into > XMP? in comment #18 i review all my needs in comment #11 you can see (screenshot) what there is in xmp field in jalbum if it is not enough feel free to ask for me
(In reply to comment #12) > >date,CreateDate, ModifyDate, DateTimeOriginal > > >title, subject, description, Label (tags ?) > > All these _tags_ are managed by digiKam to duplicates values from Exif to XMP. > Just set on the right option in metadata settings panel. > yes now they are well duplicated in xmp
(In reply to comment #12) > >GPSLongitude, GPSLongitudeRef, GPSLatitude, GPSLatitudeRef, GPSAltitude, > GPSAltitudeRef > > For this one, i'm not yet sure... > > Gilles Caulier digikam 1.0.0b4 they are not duplicated
(In reply to comment #13) > Important : in digiKam there is not option to sync XMP with Exif/Iptc. This is > what you want ??? > > Gilles Caulier it's difficult to define a good gui. common data between exif, iptc, xmp must be synchronized because i need the three today (i use picasaweb and jalbum and my still camera still uses exif) my wish is xmp is the only one i use to manage metadata or perhaps a universal template to manage metadata and then in the work flow the ability to use exif, iptc, xmp if xmp is the
(In reply to comment #8) > You are talking about copying the whole EXIF data to its corresponding exif: > namespace in XMP, a sort of "legacy EXIF" -> XMP migration, is it? yes according to my need with jalbum
Created attachment 36652 [details] photo about comment #26 and #27 (In reply to comment #29) > 2) As to your comments #26 and #27: This relates to any values missing in the > XMP panel in digikam but shown in gwenview? Please send me a sample picture (to > my private mail address, if the file is big)
digikam 1.0.0rc kipi-plugins 0.8 same pb : nothing is synchronized to xmp xmp view is full empty
digikam 1.0.0rc kipi-plugins 0.9 now i understand the pb if this is an imported photo in digikam with all exif and iptc data then nothing is synchronized in xmp if you imported a photo caption then you add caption and keywords then all exif and iptc data are synchronized to xmp it remains a pb : gps data are not synchronized to xmp
I'm suprized. look code from libkexiv2 from trunk : http://lxr.kde.org/source/KDE/kdegraphics/libs/libkexiv2/libkexiv2/kexiv2gps.cpp#312 In this method, GPS info are written in XMP. Are you sure that your Exiv2 is compiled with XMP support ? Do you use libkexiv2 from trunk ? Gilles Caulier
i use mandriva 2010.1 cooker and the packages from cooker sources i don't compile myself anything i think packager is Nicolas Lécureuil
Code from trunk is for KDE 4.4. Mandriva 2010.0 use KDE 4.3 But here i compile all from trunk without problem... Gilles Caulier
you read too fast i use 2010.1 not 2010.0 to make test 2010.1 uses kde 4.3.80 (4.4b1)
libkexiv2_8 - Bibliothèque graphique pour KDE4 * ven. déc. 04 2009 Nicolas Lécureuil <nlecureuil@mandriva.com> 2:4.3.80-1mdv2010.1 + Revision: 473342 - Add shared-desktop-ontologies-devel as BuildRequires - Update to KDE 4.4 Beta1
There is a bit of misconception or miscommunication in these bug reports here. As I understand, Philippe expects that digikam would somehow copy metadata to XMP for all pictures that it finds. We won't do that of course automatically, digikam won't touch a picture unless you tell it so. I assume a batch tool to create XMP or the existing functionality to write metadata to images will do the job.
my pb is : first case : today i work with digikam 0.9.6 i have numerous photos and videos already with exif and iptc data and without xmp data in the future i will switch to digikam 1.0.0 i need when digikam scans and founds new photo it synchronizes xmp with exif and iptc second case : several photos are already in digikam collection i use another tool to geotag,to set gps image direction, gps image direction reference, to set automaticaly location name , region name, country name in exif then i need for these photos a feature to synchronize xmp thanks
Philippe, This file still valid using digiKam 2.x serie ? Gilles Caulier
sorry i have not any 2.x digikam i created a VM with mageia 2 alpha2 according to test digikam 2 but this VM fails to start. i am waiting for mageia 2 beta 1 i am ok with marcel i suggest digikam provides : - an option in the import tool settings - an option in digikam settings and a command per photo to synchronize xmp
Philippe, This file still valid using digiKam 3.x serie ? Gilles Caulier
opensuse 13.1 , kde 4.12 , digikam 3.5 no more pb