Version: (using KDE 4.2.90) Installed from: Ubuntu Packages KDE 4 without composting has absolutely no windowing (minimize, maximize, close) effects. Windows just appear and disappear in a very jarring manner. Please add simple windowing effects for the non-composting users. Thanks. Note that KDE 3 did have simple windowing effects.
this is a matter for kwin, not plasma, but anyways... the decision was made early in kde4 to not "cheat" on pretty effects: either they would be done with composite, or not at all. I expect this will be closed WONTFIX.
i quite agree with Dotan here. so basically, we either use compositing, or don't use KDE at all? there are *many* users around the world who can't use compositing, would still love to use KDE4, and would still want to have a decent looking desktop in front of them. we're not asking for fancy stuff to be done with no compositing, just simple animations, not even sure we can call them animations. i mean OSes as old as windows 98 used to do simple minimize/restore animations on computers with 8 mb graphics, as long as it doesn't look so ugly to repel users. I'll be honest, sometimes i want to disable compositing to boost performance a bit, but i get annoyed right away but how repulsive to the eye it is to work with windows. thanks in advance.
(In reply to comment #2) > i quite agree with Dotan here. so basically, we either use compositing, or > don't use KDE at all? Please stop spreading FUD. KDE is perfectly usable without _any_ compositing, in fact I'm doing exactly that every day about 10-12 hours (partly with KDE3, partly with KDE4). Animations for minimizing windows don't add any value to the operation itself. > there are *many* users around the world who can't use > compositing, would still love to use KDE4, Luckily those people can use KDE4, because compositing effects are not mandatory. > and would still want to have a decent looking desktop in front of them. I'd say that even without any compositing and/or transparency a KDE4 desktop looks very decent. > we're not asking for fancy stuff to be > done with no compositing, just simple animations, not even sure we can call > them animations. i mean OSes as old as windows 98 used to do simple > minimize/restore animations on computers with 8 mb graphics, as long as it > doesn't look so ugly to repel users. Hmm, I can't remember my Win98 to do any kind of animation, but its been quite a long time since then. I know for sure my Windows XP installation had no such effects on by default. > I'll be honest, sometimes i want to > disable compositing to boost performance a bit, but i get annoyed right away > but how repulsive to the eye it is to work with windows. Well, there's a _very_ easy way to get animations without compositing: Use another windowmanager than kwin with KDE4. Or if you really need kwin then find someone who forks kwin and implements the necessary bits and pieces. Note: I'm no kwin developer, so this opinion might or might not match with that of the kwin developers.
Not worth while and more difficult to do than you think it is.
@Andreas: I think it's rather bold and out of place for you to tell another user to go fork kwin to get the feature that he wants, when you are not a kwin developer. Likewise telling him to go find another window manager is a bit out of line. Express your opinion, but do not make policy for the kwin devs. @Lucas: I do appreciate how difficult the work is, and I do appreciate how much effort is put into kwin already. I respect your decision, even if I don't agree with it. Thanks.