Version: (using Devel) Installed from: Compiled sources KJots is a simple not taking application. It allows the user to write notes as pages and organize them into notebooks. Typical uses of the application are the same as a pen and paper notebook. People use it for quick access to short notes they can make and organize. I use it to keep a list of quotations, and generally taking notes of things to remember. I think there is a need for two icons. actions/view-pim-notebooks - For kontact side pane apps/kjots (or apps/pim-notebooks if there is such a spec item) - The application icon.
steveire@gmail.com wrote: [bugs.kde.org quoted mail] I keep telling people this, but nobody listens. 8-S When you say "pim notebooks', pim is an adjective so your icon name should be: actions/view-notebooks-pim The icon name needs to read from right to left like a URL does. Or you can think of it as a tree structure -- which is what a URL is. Then we need to ask, are there going to be multiple icons: actions/view-notebooks-* to view various types of notebooks? If not, then just call it: actions/view-notebooks There is currently no generic icon name for this application type so I would call the menu icon: apps/kjots OTOH, if you want such a name, then: accessories-notebooks would probably be correct.
It's not "PIM notebooks", it's "the PIM view for notebooks". (Like, "a PIM view" → view-pim. Which one? The notebook one → view-pim-notebooks.) Having them named view-pim-* has the advantage that they're all grouped together alphabetically, which is quite practical considering the large number of view-* icons. Therefore, a third party developer can tell at a glance that the view-pim-* icons are for usage in Kontact or similar applications. As for the application icon, I guess this type of application is not considered part of a basic application set (plus, it also differs a lot from GNOME's approach to notes, Tomboy) so I would not consider it generic enough to warrant a generic application name. apps/kjots should be just fine.
Created attachment 25801 [details] png icon which could be used to make an svg This icon was sent to me months ago by a KJots user that I haven't been able to get in contact with since. Maybe whoever creates the new KJots icon could base it off this one.
Created attachment 25816 [details] Source svg file for icon I asked the artist again, and he sent the svg of the icon to me. :) Can this be used to make an apps-kjots and a view-pim-notebooks for Kontact?
Jakob Petsovits wrote: <SNIP> > Having them named view-pim-* has the advantage that they're all > grouped together alphabetically, As I said, the form of the icon names should be designed with fallback the primary consideration. The code doesn't care what the words are and these should be selected for the convenience of the developers. If you don't agree with my assertion, we have a basic problem. Obviously, this is only what I think, but it seems to be logically correct. The problem here is that there can be no fallback to: view-pim while icons named: view-<something>-pim will fallback to: view-<something> and would have to fallback all the way to: view which is an empty frame. Seems obvious to me.
>> Can this be used to make an apps-kjots and a view-pim-notebooks for >> Kontact? > > I don't see any problem doing that. He used the font "dear joe" for the > handwriting. This is a free font and I downloaded it. Final SVG will > have this embedded as an outline. If you want, I will work on > optimizing if for you (something that artists don't seem to fully > understand) so that it renders better at smaller sizes. I would > recommend a wider font for "Kjots" and app names are usually all upper > case in icons. A darker color for the pen would improve the contrast > (it is contrast and color that makes an icon clear in small sizes). You > should choose a color in the Oxygen pallet for the pen. I have no ability with inkscape and I don't have an artistic eye. Do go ahead with any changes you think would make it better and it's fine by me. Would the notebook without the pen be suitable for the kontact sidebar (that's where the view-pim icons are, and they're similar, but not identical to the app icons AFAICS). If it's too much work one icon for both is fine too. As I'm not going to do the work, I don't want to add to it too much.
Can we get these icons in before Tomorrow? We're in artwork freeze then. http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule#July_8th.2C_2008:_Artwork_and_Bindings_Freeze Cheers.