Bug 153249 - wish List--Photo arranging and printing tool
Summary: wish List--Photo arranging and printing tool
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: digikam
Classification: Applications
Component: Plugin-Generic-PhotoLayoutEditor (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Digikam Developers
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2007-12-01 23:15 UTC by Ted Hansen
Modified: 2018-02-04 22:28 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

See Also:
Latest Commit:
Version Fixed In: 2.6.0


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image example (49.37 KB, image/jpeg)
2009-06-19 03:44 UTC, Ted Hansen
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Description Ted Hansen 2007-12-01 23:15:33 UTC
Version:           unknown (using KDE 3.5.8, Debian Package 4:3.5.8.dfsg.1-2 (lenny/sid))
Compiler:          Target: i486-linux-gnu
OS:                Linux (i686) release 2.6.21-1-686

Add a plugin which would allow assembling of more than one image on a page then print the whole page.

Plugin should also provide for easy sizing, cropping (including cropping to a non rectangular shape) and arranging of images. Should also be capable of captions & text balloons as well as background patterns.

Looking for a photo printing application similar to the Photo Record program that comes with a Canon camera...which is windows only and will not run under wine. There is no linux application which will do this. Openoffice can be used to assemble a page of images but it has limited image manipulation capability and is not easy to use.
Comment 1 Arnd Baecker 2007-12-02 00:30:08 UTC
Quite a bit of this seems to be discussed in:
  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149936
  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146869

Ted, could you check if your ideas fit into these two,
and if yes, add any remaining points there 
(then this wish could be marked as duplicate)?

Thanks a lot, Arnd
Comment 2 caulier.gilles 2007-12-02 08:46:36 UTC
Arnd,

This is a job for Print Wizard kipi-plugin.

We will lets Angello manage this entry...

Gilles
Comment 3 Angelo Naselli 2007-12-02 10:25:41 UTC
On comment#2 ok it's printwizard's but please, Gilles, do not stop
Arnd to help in finding duplicates :p

About Canon program i haven't windows at all here so i cannot
see that. 
Anyway what do you mean by:
"Add a plugin which would allow assembling of more than one image on a page then 
print the whole page"?
Printwizard already does something by that, put some photos togheter and print them in
a single page layout (A4, letter,...)

Angelo
Comment 4 Ted Hansen 2007-12-02 17:41:16 UTC

The application would be aimed at users who want to produce a scrapbook-like page of photos. see http://www.photorecord.com/v2/en/usingphotorecord.html for an example.
Main screen would be a page layout. User would add photos from an open files dialog box...the standard kde open files dialog box would do. User could then arrange, crop, rotate or resize the photos directly from a right-click menu. Access to Showfoto or Gimp could take care of any other editing needed but user should not have to use these applications for cropping or resizing...maintain easy WYSWYG for these operations. User could also add frames to the photos. For multi-page layout a screen showing all pages would be available and photos could be freely drag'n'dropped between pages...no "anchor to page / anchor to paragraph" confusion such as Openoffice requires. 
Captions, text boxes ("balloons") & clipart would be added in a similar manners to adding photos. Templates for specialty uses such as calenders or CD covers could also be incorporated.
Projects should be saveable, and any editing done on a photo from this application would not change the original photo so a separate copy of the photo must be created for this app.
In response to Arnd Baecker; yes, some of this functionality is discussed in the bugs listed but this wish goes beyond what is discussed there so I don't think it should be dismissed as a duplicate. What I am wishing for is at least a kipi plug-in...it could actually be a separate application.  
Print Wizard is not the solution. It is neither easy to find, easy to use nor does it have the features desired. A better analogy for this application would be that it is a "photo-processor" for creating an image page in the same sense that a word-processor creates a text page. It would not be appropriate to use a step-by-step printing process for a word processor. My version of print wizard (0.9.2-beta 3) will not import more than one image. 
Simple, intuitive operation for unskilled users is paramount, which is why I use Canon PhotoRecord as an example, this is one of it's best features. 
 
Comment 5 Angelo Naselli 2007-12-09 21:58:35 UTC
>My version of print wizard (0.9.2-beta 3) will not import more than one image.  

0.9.2 is the *digikam* version not the kipi-plugins one.
Comment 6 Ted Hansen 2007-12-09 23:22:46 UTC
Sorry. kipi-plugins is 0.1.3-5. I think this bug has been fixed in later versions although I cannot find the appropriate bug report right now. 
That bug is not really central to this wish, however. I really think that print-wizard is not the solution and that a new plugin to create a "photo-processor" analogous to a word processor is called for. 
Comment 7 Ted Hansen 2008-12-08 17:38:08 UTC
Leave open. Still my #1 wish for Linux applications. 
This will require whole new plug-in, something similar to inserting photos in Kword but with enhanced editing, cropping and arranging capability plus backgrounds, frames and text balloons. 
Comment 8 Angelo Naselli 2009-02-26 17:23:02 UTC
Gilles is something like that into superimpose plugin? and if is it in digikam 0.10.0?
Why not to port it into kipi-plugins if not?

Angelo
Comment 9 Ted Hansen 2009-02-26 18:22:54 UTC
I'm beginning to think this wish is beyond being a simple plugin...it is probably actually a whole new separate application...but I don't know where else to put the request. 
What I am really looking for is an application that is similar to "Collage Maker" which is a windows app but it will run in wine. Try it to see what I am looking for better than I can explain it. 
There is nothing even close as a native linux app. 
This would really make digikam into a total photo handling suite.
Comment 10 Angelo Naselli 2009-06-17 22:24:04 UTC
can you please test last PrintImages and PrintAssistant plugins for kde 4.x?
Sure they have new functionalities you should appreciate and have asked for
here. Not all though. Maybe you can open new bugs one for any features 
you'd like to have in. 
It' easier following discussion with a single problem/wish at time...
Comment 11 Ted Hansen 2009-06-19 03:44:12 UTC
Created attachment 34645 [details]
image example
Comment 12 Ted Hansen 2009-06-19 03:44:54 UTC
I tested using Digikam 0.10.0 on Ubuntu 9.04 on an Acer netbook. This is a Gnome system....I have been extremely disappointed with KDE4 so have switched to Gnome....therefore only the bits of KDE necessary to run Digikam are installed but this should not affect the testing.

Sorry Angelo but Print Assistant doesn't even begin to answer this wish.

Unless I'm just not using it right, all I can get Print Assistant to do is to print images full page on separate sheets....if it is capable of more than this then I'm afraid the capabilities are too well hidden for it to qualify as "easy to use". 

I don't know it I can post an example picture here.....I will try to send you a PM if I can't....but I don't think this wish is ever going to be satisfied with a variation of Print Assistant. It is the wrong approach. With Print Assistant the aim is to print a few pre-selected images each on separate sheets of paper with some very limited image manipulation at the printing stage. 

This Wish is for an application capable of arranging several images on a single page, adding or removing images as desired (without being limited to a preselected few), resizing, masking or manipulating the images to create a "photo montage" page, adding some text or clipart and then printing the result. 

I have recently discovered an app called Xara Extreme which does the basics of what I am seeking. Have a look at it, this wish is for a Digikam plugin of something similar.

I created the example image attached in only a few minutes using the following steps:

1. Import the jpegs.
2. Resize images to fit on page
3. Arrange images on page. Move some to back or front so they overlap. Rotate some images. 
4. Add a ballon shape and some text.
5. Save the image or send to printer.

Note that the application displays a "page preview" starting with a blank page and all adding, editing, arranging, resizing etc are done graphically whereas Print Assistant starts by locking you in to an image selection.

Ted
Comment 13 Angelo Naselli 2009-09-30 22:21:46 UTC
Sorry Gilles i don't agree, the request is more related to an image editor than
print plugin. At least it cannot, imo, included into wizard. There are too many things to do for that inside the wizard.
I believe a simple editor plugin that allows to add and "little" manipulate them
should do the most of what is requested.
Print wizard works -at the moment- with static templates and layouts, you can add new templates but nothing can be added dinamically.

Angelo
Comment 14 Ted Hansen 2009-09-30 23:35:02 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
I agree with Angelo...this is a wish for an image editor not a printer plugin.
Comment 15 caulier.gilles 2012-01-08 10:23:48 UTC
Photo Layout Editor is a new tool to assemble image together.

About to print, i'm not sure if it can do it...

Gilles Caulier
Comment 16 Łukasz Spas 2012-01-08 13:55:46 UTC
(In reply to comment #15)
> Photo Layout Editor is a new tool to assemble image together.
> 
> About to print, i'm not sure if it can do it...
> 
> Gilles Caulier

Yes, it can. It uses Qt printing classes (tested on Qt >= 4.7 && PDF printer).
Comment 17 caulier.gilles 2012-01-08 15:44:05 UTC
So, i can close it...

Gilles Caulier