Bug 150119 - Allow only showing icon on the tab bar (like in KDE3)
Summary: Allow only showing icon on the tab bar (like in KDE3)
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: konsole
Classification: Applications
Component: tabbar (show other bugs)
Version: 2.8
Platform: Compiled Sources Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konsole Developer
URL:
Keywords:
: 168604 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2007-09-23 15:54 UTC by Albert Astals Cid
Modified: 2012-05-19 15:11 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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The said screenshot. (3.09 KB, application/octet-stream)
2007-09-23 15:56 UTC, Albert Astals Cid
Details
"text only" vs "icon only" (57.03 KB, image/png)
2012-03-13 11:44 UTC, Jekyll Wu
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Description Albert Astals Cid 2007-09-23 15:54:47 UTC
Version:            (using KDE Devel)
Installed from:    Compiled sources

I'd like a way to have small tabs like in KDE3, that is, only showing the tab the size of the icon.

I'm attaching an image of what i like.
Comment 1 Albert Astals Cid 2007-09-23 15:56:14 UTC
Created attachment 21673 [details]
The said screenshot.
Comment 2 Bart Geesink 2007-10-19 04:22:07 UTC
I would like to see that as well. Furthermore, the new tab button has disappeared in 1.9.2.
Comment 3 Robert Knight 2007-10-19 13:24:56 UTC
> Furthermore, the new tab button has disappeared in 1.9.2. 

That change is intentional.  I am reluctant to reintroduce it because it essentially duplicates the functionality of the File menu.  The available keyboard shortcuts are now much more extensive so I want to encourage them as the primary means of creating new tabs.  
Comment 4 Matthew Woehlke 2007-10-19 17:24:27 UTC
Bleh, the button is pretty much the only way I ever create new tabs :-(.
Comment 5 Kurt Hindenburg 2009-02-03 06:46:39 UTC
*** Bug 168604 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 Leos Junek 2009-02-03 20:47:08 UTC
I would like to use buttons to create new tab or close any tab too. In my opinion reducing some functionality is not a good way in software development. Many users, including me, got used to control Konsole with these buttons. Absence of the buttons was one of several dissapointment when I migrated from Kde 3.5 to KDE 4.2.
Comment 7 Robert Knight 2009-02-04 09:05:41 UTC
Hi Leos,

You can have them back.  Go to Settings -> Edit Current Profile -> Tabs and tick the checkbox called "Show 'New Tab' and 'Close Tab' buttons in tab bar"

The reason they are not there by default is because I wanted to encourage users to use keyboard shortcuts more often.
Comment 8 Leos Junek 2009-02-04 10:23:52 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> Hi Leos,
> 
> You can have them back.  Go to Settings -> Edit Current Profile -> Tabs and
> tick the checkbox called "Show 'New Tab' and 'Close Tab' buttons in tab bar"
> 
> The reason they are not there by default is because I wanted to encourage users
> to use keyboard shortcuts more often.

Thank you, Robert, for your notice as well as for keeping the possibility of using buttons. I normally use keyboard to show new tab, however sometimes it's quicklier to use button (at the time of moving cursor) when creating new tab or closing the old one.

Comment 9 Kurt Hindenburg 2009-02-04 17:24:48 UTC
Robert, was the ability to have icon, icon/text, or text as the tab title removed entirely in KDE 4?  Are you interested in allowing it back in?
Comment 10 Robert Knight 2009-02-04 18:57:53 UTC
> Robert, was the ability to have icon, icon/text, or text as
> the tab title removed entirely in KDE 4?

Removed in the sense that the tab bar code is all new and I never added this functionality back in.

> Are you interested in allowing it back in? 

Yes, just needs someone to code it - the only UI needed is a combo box in the 'Tab Titles' section of the Edit Profile dialog.
Comment 11 avner 2010-08-29 13:17:11 UTC
I would like to have this option (icon only tabs) back too.
I regularly open many tabs, and I like to see them all at a glance, without the need to page them back and force with the arrow buttons.
Comment 12 Richard Hartmann 2010-08-31 09:52:25 UTC
Seems I never commented on this one even though I seem to have bookmarked it for ages.

FWIW, I would love to have this feature, as well.
Comment 13 Jekyll Wu 2012-03-13 03:18:25 UTC
So, KDE3 Konso provided three choices:

  * Text and Icon(The only choice in KDE4 konsole)
  * Text Only
  * Icon Only(requested by this report)

I would like to bring back "Text Only". It can be useful for quite a lot (or most?) of users, who never use customized icon. Showing the same icon on each tab is only a waste of space, although that still give eyes a better feeling IMHO.

But I'm a little confused by "Icon Only", or I'm not convinced that it is very useful in practice. Yes, it can make each tab take even smaller space, but it also makes it harder to tell or identify one tab from the others. Take the screenshot in comment #1 as an example(all tabs showing the same icon), I have no idea what is going on within the third tab unless I switch to that tab. Of course, I can use different icons in different profiles, but the problem is still there if I have multiple tabs using the same profile. 

So if any user still misses that "Icon Only" choice, please give some practical use cases. Or, maybe I should search the bugzilla or git history to find why "Icon Only" was ever introduced.
Comment 14 Albert Astals Cid 2012-03-13 09:11:16 UTC
I do still miss "Icon Only".

My use case is: I know what there is in all of the open tabs i have open, i *never* look at the text, so having the text just makes the tabs bigger (hence i can fit "less" per screen) with no added value for me
Comment 15 Jekyll Wu 2012-03-13 11:44:20 UTC
Created attachment 69572 [details]
"text only" vs "icon only"

(In reply to comment #14)
> I do still miss "Icon Only".
> 
> My use case is: I know what there is in all of the open tabs i have open, i
> *never* look at the text, so having the text just makes the tabs bigger
> (hence i can fit "less" per screen) with no added value for me

OK. So your preference for "Icon Only" is mainly for its small occupation of tabbar space. 

If "Text Only" is available, you can also make each tab occupy very small space  by setting the tab title format as one single letter like "a" in the profile( empty string does not work).

As shown in the attached screenshot. "Text Only" can achieve similar results as "Icon Only" does, although I'd agree the "Icon Only" one serves my eyes better.

I will refine my hack into a better shape, then submit it onto review board. But frankly, I'm not fully convinced yet.
Comment 16 Albert Astals Cid 2012-03-13 19:46:17 UTC
Well, your solution sounds like a hack, i won't let you select icons only, but choose text only and put a randomly short text there... No thanks, anyhow, having the icon 
*is* useful since it changes when things like "Watch activity" trigger