Bug 139308 - kmail sometimes doesnt recognize mailing list headers
Summary: kmail sometimes doesnt recognize mailing list headers
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Alias: None
Product: kmail
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 1.9.5
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
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Keywords:
Depends on:
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Reported: 2006-12-28 11:28 UTC by Mathias Homann
Modified: 2015-04-19 04:54 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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one email in mbox format that does not get recognized as coming from a mailinglist (5.89 KB, application/mbox)
2012-05-14 07:29 UTC, Mathias Homann
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Description Mathias Homann 2006-12-28 11:28:56 UTC
Version:           1.9.5 (using KDE 3.5.5 "release 45" , openSUSE 10.2)
Compiler:          Target: x86_64-suse-linux
OS:                Linux (x86_64) release 2.6.18.2-34-default

When i try to configure a folder for a mailinglist (Menu item "verwaltung einer mailingliste" with german i18n used), kmail sometimes does not recognize the mailinglist headerlines in mails (popup telling me that no mailinglist information was found). When i look at the mail in question, i find the usual well-formed mailinglist headers, and as soon as i switch to a different folder, and back to the folder in question, autodetecting the list headers works (most of the time).
Comment 1 Andreas Pakulat 2007-10-29 21:39:32 UTC
I can confirm this and I have some cases where I can't get KMail to recognize the headers at all - for KDE mailinglists.
Comment 2 Martin Koller 2009-08-04 20:25:48 UTC
Can not reproduce this with kmail/KDE4.3.
If you still have this problem, please attach an example mail and reopen.
Comment 3 Mathias Homann 2012-05-14 07:27:58 UTC
I'm still experiencing this bug.
Attached is an example mail.
Comment 4 Mathias Homann 2012-05-14 07:29:17 UTC
Created attachment 71079 [details]
one email in mbox format that does not get recognized as coming from a mailinglist
Comment 5 Mathias Homann 2012-05-14 07:30:34 UTC
I'm running KDE 4.8.3:

@nb-20:~> kmail --version
Qt: 4.8.1
KDE: 4.8.3 (4.8.3) "release 503"
KMail: 4.8.3
Comment 6 Laurent Montel 2012-05-14 09:26:15 UTC
works fine here.
Comment 7 Mathias Homann 2012-05-14 09:57:49 UTC
My problem is, it does not always work, or not.
It's erratic. I restart kmail, and it works with a list email that failed to get recognized before.

The success rate is roughly 20% though, makes it a real pain when you have to setup kmail/kontact on a fresh kde setup.
Comment 8 Thiago Jung Bauermann 2013-09-13 14:43:26 UTC
I can reproduce this on KMail 4.11.1, Akonadi 1.10.1, Kubuntu 12.04.3 LTS. KMail doesn't recognize kde-pim@kde.org mailing list in a folder containing only messages from that mailing list.

I have a couple of other mailing list folders (internal mailing lists at my job, managed by mailman) which are detected, though.

KMail can't detect mailing lists in any folder in my GMail IMAP account (lists from KDE, Google Groups, Yahoo Groups and mailman), and it can detect some but not all mailing lists in my regular IMAP account from work.
Comment 9 Thiago Jung Bauermann 2013-09-25 19:57:27 UTC
This is working now. I haven't updated kmail though. What could have changed is that I recently enabled email searching in Nepomuk, possibly after I made the comment above.

Does mailing list support in KMail depend on Nepomuk?
Comment 10 Mathias Homann 2013-09-25 20:24:57 UTC
hm.. it still does not work for me here.
Comment 11 Thiago Jung Bauermann 2013-09-25 20:42:41 UTC
If I go to the folder properties dialog (by right-clicking on a folder), go to the mailing list tab and ask it to automatically detect mailing list headers, it still says it can't find any.

But if I have a message selected and I go to the menu Message → Mailing lists there are entries there for sending a new message to the list, subscribing, unsubscribing, and they work.

So I should say that it sort of works. :-)
Comment 12 James Cain 2013-12-04 18:42:14 UTC
In 4.12 rc1 filtering on mailing lists is a real hit-or-miss proposition. I'd guesstimate that it works 25% of the time. 

From above:
"KMail doesn't recognize kde-pim@kde.org mailing list in a folder containing only messages from that mailing list."

Same here with not only that list, but also 
* kdepim-users@kde.org
* kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com

Also worth noting that if one clicks on Folder Properties by right-clicking on a mailing list folder,  clicking on the Mailing List tab and then "Detect Automatically" many times (most?) detecting the address either fails or detects the wrong address. 

Using a Gmail account w/ IMAP.
Comment 13 Laurent Montel 2015-04-12 09:47:27 UTC
Thank you for taking the time to file a bug report.

KMail2 was released in 2011, and the entire code base went through significant changes. We are currently in the process of porting to Qt5 and KF5. It is unlikely that these bugs are still valid in KMail2.

We welcome you to try out KMail 2 with the KDE 4.14 release and give your feedback.
Comment 14 Thiago Jung Bauermann 2015-04-19 04:46:10 UTC
I'm using KMail2 4.14.2 with KDE 4.14.2 on Kubuntu and this bug still happens for me. What I wrote in comment 11 is still true.

Should I clone this bug for KMail2, or will you reassign this bug?
Comment 15 Thiago Jung Bauermann 2015-04-19 04:54:21 UTC
I just noticed that the folder properties window doesn't recognize a mailing list from Yahoo Groups, but it does recognize a mailing list from Google Groups.

The difference seems to be that an Yahoo Groups mailing list only has a header telling how to unsubscribe from it, while one from Google Groups has headers telling how to send messages, get help and unsubscribe.