Bug 135828 - Usability: KOrganizer does not have "Save" button
Summary: Usability: KOrganizer does not have "Save" button
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: korganizer
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
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Reported: 2006-10-17 18:38 UTC by Krzysztof Lichota
Modified: 2011-01-01 21:52 UTC (History)
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Description Krzysztof Lichota 2006-10-17 18:38:52 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.5.5)

There is no "Save" button in KOrganizer, so there is no way of forcing it to save calendars. This is very irritating because it is inconsistent with all other apps.
Comment 1 Bram Schoenmakers 2006-10-18 19:10:16 UTC
Every change you make is immediately saved. There is no need to save.
Comment 2 Krzysztof Lichota 2006-10-18 20:24:23 UTC
1. This is counter-intuitive. 
2. Is it saved each time when, for example, file is on remote server using fish? I do not see this happening.
3. Korganizer shows "Modified" in title bar, for example when new event is added. 
Comment 3 Bram Schoenmakers 2006-10-19 19:10:18 UTC
Iterating through your points:

1) I don't buy that
2) No worries. Calendars on the local harddrive are immediately written to, remote calendars have a buffer and will safe once in a time interval and when you quit KOrganizer
3) Your only statement which makes some sense, perhaps we should remove the [modified] word from the title. Reinhold, Allen, do you agree?
Comment 4 Krzysztof Lichota 2006-10-19 19:26:30 UTC
1) It is inconsistent with all other apps. Thus it confuses users. So I think it is usability bug. I know it irritates me, I guess it irritates other people, but it should be up to usability guys to give the decision.
2) So for remote calendars the only choice I have is to wait or close KOrganizer (I am doing the latter BTW). It does not make me comfortable that I am limited only to this choices. It is like you had text editor which saves only every few minutes or on quit. Would you like it? I prefer full control over my apps.
3) The "modified" word disappears after some time, so it suggests even local calendars are not saved immediately.
Comment 5 Reinhold Kainhofer 2006-10-19 19:28:35 UTC
Am Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2006 19:10 schrieb Bram Schoenmakers:
[bugs.kde.org quoted mail]

I agree. There are no calendar apps where your actively have to save the data. 
You also don't save the data of your mail application or of your file 
browser.

> 2) No worries. Calendars on the local harddrive are immediately written to,
> remote calendars have a buffer and will safe once in a time interval and
> when you quit KOrganizer 


Well, for me it seems that even remote calendars are immediately saved (i.e. 
the delayed saving option doesn't seem to have any effect).

> 3) Your only statement which makes some sense, 
> perhaps we should remove the [modified] word from the title. 


Exactly. It should only be there if there are really any unsaved changes, i.e. 
if the current calendar is a CalendarLocal and not a CalendarResources. (We 
shouldn't distinguish on that, but rather catch the instance when the 
resource calendar is saved and remove the [modified] propertly).

Cheers,
Reinhold
Comment 6 Leo Savernik 2006-10-20 19:16:57 UTC
For the records, KOrganizer used to provide a save button up to KDE 3.3 (or 
3.4?). One could use it to explicitly save the current contents. Note that 
the calendar was saved automatically on exit nonetheless (and maybe even 
inbetween).
Comment 7 Reinhold Kainhofer 2006-11-02 19:20:05 UTC
Reassigning all KOrganizer bug reports and wishes to the newly created 
korganizer-devel mailing list.
Comment 8 Sergio Martins 2009-03-14 00:03:37 UTC
If you want to save explicitly you can right click the resource and choose "Save".

Can we close this then?
Comment 9 Sergio Martins 2011-01-01 21:52:30 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> If you want to save explicitly you can right click the resource and choose
> "Save".
> 
> Can we close this then?

Closing then. Also, this bug doesn't make sense, now that we use akonadi. Please don't reopen it.