Version: 1.9 (using KDE 3.5.0, compiled sources) Compiler: Target: i486-linux-gnu OS: Linux (i686) release 2.6.14.1 In previous versions of kmail I was able to mark messages or threads as Spam, Ham and Answered. I used this to mark my messages (e.g. ham was a mail with something todo which is done, spam was something I needed to do and things like that.) Also, it is usefull to mark a message as answered, because I often answer from another client or by phone. The now missing (removed) markers make it hard for me to work with kmail. Best would be if you could create your own markers (colors, icon, name) or you just add the old one, I think they are fine.
I used to use those markers exactely the same way. And I don't think it belongs to the wishlist - in my eyes it is a very grave bug that the markers disappeared. Please mark it as bug. I cannot use kmail without.
Why did you remove the markers for ham (I too use/d it as "done"), spam, sent, waiting, forwarded and replied? They were so handy, accessible through one button in the toolbar (mark message as) with a drop down list - now useless. I think that happend accidently, didn't it? Yes, it must be a bug. Please put those markers back were they belong and please as soon as possible. Really, I could cry that kmail 1.9.1 is that crippled. I really think of going back to KDE 3.4 with KMail 1.8 until this is fixed. BTW: I don't know how the "to do" flag really is named in the english version, but in the german version in KDE 3.4.3 it said "to do " (zu erledigen) which is the best you can name it. In KDE 3.5.1 (Kmail 1.9.1) it suddenly reads as "task" (Aufgabe) which really isn't the same and isn't that intuitive. Please go back to the "to do".
Bad bad bad news: Bug 103707 The ham/spam markers have been removed deliberately (and I guess the "replied" marker too)... Especially I will miss that handy "done" (ham) flag. But also the "mark as replied" is inevitable because I often reply two mails ore more in one and than had marked the not directly replied ones (or the ones I replied on the phone) with it. Yes, I too used the markers out of the toolbar button (mark message) with the drop down list. Good bye kmail - thanks for the nice job you and your developers did in the past. I'll miss you. R.I.P. It hurts, oh it hurts...
IMHO this is a priority one bug. I just switched to KDE 3.5.1 and I'm very upset to see KMail not working the way I like it anymore. Please put "mark as replied" back into the mark message menu and the button for the toolbar. And please either re-add "mark as ham" or add a "mark as done". And yes, I too prefer "zu erledigen/to do" instead of "Aufgabe/task". What do we have to do to get it back? Give you our first-borns?
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Ah, we start to get to the real background of the wish. We're approaching the workflow area. 1) reply to two mails ore more in one and than had marked the not directly replied ones 2) that handy "done" (ham) flag Speaking for the developer team (I hope it's okay here) I think nobody of that group used the "ham" status to mark messages as done. Hm, the icon is really handy for that. I don't know about the replying to more than one messages thing, but at least I don't work that way. (Which doesn't mean, it's wrong.) I think the arguments in the report are reasonable. The remaining question is who will put the items back into the menu and when. There are some limitations regarding the 3.5 branch. And doing it right would actually mean to have a dedicated "done" flag. So don't take my comment as a promise, but as a hint. This way of arguing leads to improvements in the software. Blaming the developers won't. A last word about the naming issue. The native english speakers among the PIM developers decided for task in favour of to do. I can't comment on that, I don't belong to that group. The translation into German is done by a translation team. You can try to convice them to translate task to "zu erledigen" when working on the PIM applications strings. In relation, it was planed to create a task in KOrganizer when marking a message as to-do/task in KMail. Perhaps that's a reason for the change.
Andreas Gungl, you are right and I apologize. And the kmail developers not only did a good job but still do it. Ok, back to bug/wish. Then this is a very urgent wish for more markers and the re-enabling of the replied-marker (both markers I use daily and several times a day, yes, use not used because at the moment I'm back to KDE 3.4.3 hoping this will be fixed soon). And about the "task/to do": I also prefer "to do" and agree it is more intuitive than "task". It is just a little flag to remind me that I have to do something with that mail (reply for example) or do something before I reply. Really no need to make a task out of it (and should it come that mails marked with this automatically create a task in KOrganizer I hope that behaviour can be turned off).
I'm using KMail 1.9.1, Kontact 1.2.1, r505606, the menu entry is still labelled "Mark Message as To-Do".
@ Thiago Macieira: Either it is different in Kmail and Kmail within Kontact or the German translators made a solo run... But the really most important thing is to enable "mark as replied" again. I just received a lot of emails through the contact form of my website and I cannot reply those mails in Kmail directly because the reply mail then would go to the formmailer address. So I have to write a new mail as reply for each mail I received from the formmailer and have to mark all mails as replied - manually. But in KMail 1.9.1 that is not possible anymore. Or is there a workaround to mark those mails I have not replied directly as replied? I would go back to KDE 3.4.3 because of this if that version didn't have that nasty konqueror bug with the forms (deleted carriage returns). Or is there a way to use Kmail of KDE 3.4.3 with KDE 3.5.1? Or Konqueror of KDE 3.5.1 with KDE 3.4.3?
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 17:24 schrieb Peter Paulsen: > So I have to write a new mail as reply > for each mail I received from the formmailer and have to mark all mails as > replied - manually. But in KMail 1.9.1 that is not possible anymore. Or is > there a workaround to mark those mails I have not replied directly as > replied? > > I would go back to KDE 3.4.3 because of this if that version didn't have > that nasty konqueror bug with the forms (deleted carriage returns). Here is a workaround: Create a filter with no rule and one action "mark as -> replied". Change the settings for this filter to be applied _only_ manually, choose a suitable shortcut, assign an icon and add the filter to the toolbar (all within the filter dialog). Then, select the messages in question, click the toolbar icon or activate the filter via shortcut...
Thanks, that helps. But nevertheless it would be good to have it re-implemented because 1. my toolbar is so full and it was nice to have it with the other markers in one drop down menu and 2. if I marked the wrong mail I cannot de-mark it with this method. Should we maybe split this into two bug reports? One for the come back of the "replied" marker and one for the new implementation of some more markers like a "done" marker to substitute the ham marker?
I can understand why the ham/spam markers were removed. But I cannot understand why the "replied" marker has been removed. If you think "mark as replied" is unnecessary than you likewise could remove the markers for new, unread and read (or two of them - I really just need one of them for, as a switch, it covers all three actions and new and unread is the same for me). Now I stumbled into the same problem as Peter, I use a form on my homepage for receiving feedback. When I use a manual "mark as replied" filter and I did wrong (just imagine I often have a small sudden tremor and most of the time when I click the cursor moves a few pixels away and I click the wrong item) then it is not possible to remove the "replied" mark with any other filter like e.g. new or so, I am forced to create a contrary filter for every manual filter - but there is no way to create such a filter. Reusing the "mark as read" filter does not remove the flag and creating a filter with no action (which I thought would maybe remove all flags) does not do it either. So I end up with a lot of mails marked as replied which are not. What we need back is a way to handle "mark as replied" as a switch like mark as new/unread/read.
I mean the markers for important and to do which act as switches.
I second this recommendation that you bring back "Replied". I often download messages from my yahoo account that I may have replied to via the web interface already...I would like to mark them as such.
If you are not willing in any case to bring back the "mark as replied" option than please be honest and mark this as WONTFIX. But please don't let the users starve in front of your stretched out hand. And please explain why you have removed that one option. It has nothing to do with the spam/ham filtering you described and it cannot be substituted by a manual replied-filter as described above. We somehow should split this wishlist entry into two: 1. bring back the "mark as replied" option and 2. give the users the possibility to mark mails for a better optical retrieving i.e. define own labels/flags with own icons which do nothing but being an optical reminder.
I would like to stress one fact that seems recurring here: Messages are often replied to by means other than Kmail directly (phone, web interface, or even through another message in Kmail). These messages must be marked as Replied To. This is a critical feature and many people depend upon it. Reintroducing the Replied To button would solve a lot of problems for a lot of people.
I recently got some e-mails of an IMAP account restored and all restored mails lost their answered flag. Because it is a multi-user IMAP account I had to go through all mails and individually mark them as answered. Unfortunately kmail does not support this therefore I had to use the webclient for this. So after 3 years of inactivity here I would like to raise this wish again.
Thank you for your feature request. Kmail1 is currently unmaintained so we are closing all wishes. Please feel free to reopen a feature request for Kmail2 if it has not already been implemented. Thank you for your understanding.
Instead of creating a new feature request, please confirm here if the wishlist is still valid for kmail2.
Still applies to kmail2, is a valid wishlist item. Might possibly be a WONTFIX, but requires careful consideration.