Version: 3.3.2 (using KDE 3.3.2, (3.1)) Compiler: gcc version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-5) OS: Linux (i686) release 2.6.7 It is possible to get the end of the day later than the start of the day. As no AM or PM is displayed the configuration screen for KOrganizer does not display the problem once it is inadvertantly entered. I am new to KDE and for a year I have found it impossible to set an appointment in the afternoon by normal means. The appointment always went to the AM hour instead of the PM hour. For almost a year I accepted the AM setting that I could not avoid (when trying to set a PM setting) and then used the mouse to slide it to the correct PM time. I eventually figured out that I had erroneously set the day starting time and day ending time as to AM and PM. I wish the USA used the 24 hour clock system as that would have made this problem impossible. As it is, the KOrganizer allowed me to make a configuration mistake and struggle with it for a long time. The "New day begins at" entry and the "Daily Starting hour" in the Work day section could allow a "work day start" before the "start of the day" I suspect. This was a user error in one sense, but it was user error that was easy to make and it appeared to be a bug in the program because it was not clear to me how these settings worked together and once-entered how they were set as to AM and PM. This is just a useability issue for people who don't know how the system works, accidentally enter the wrong time(as to AM and PM), and don't get a clue as to their error by looking at the configuration screen that does not display AM or PM. Thanks for all of the work you do. Linux has been frustrating for a Windows person because of many little issues like this. The longer I use Linux, the better I like it. It just takes time to discover how such little details work. Thanks again for your work. Jim Fuqua
I erroneously said "It is possible to get the end of the day later than the start of the day." when I ment to say "It is possible to get the end of the day before the start of the day."
Am Sonntag, 4. September 2005 12:32 schrieb Jim Fuqua: > It is possible to get the end of the day later than the start of the day. > As no AM or PM is displayed the configuration screen for KOrganizer does > not display the problem once it is inadvertantly entered. What is your configured time format (in the control panel)? pH:MM:SS? If so, that's the problem, since it means that 12 hour format *without* am/pm is used, so 07:30 is used for both 7:30 am and 7:30 pm... As this is not unique, it's impossible to correctly interpret any entered time, since korganizer can't know if am or pm is meant. You need to change the system-wide time format to either include the am/pm information or use 24 hour format. > I am new to KDE and for a year I have found it impossible to set an > appointment in the afternoon by normal means. The appointment always went > to the AM hour instead of the PM hour. For almost a year I accepted the AM > setting that I could not avoid (when trying to set a PM setting) and then > used the mouse to slide it to the correct PM time. I eventually figured > out that I had erroneously set the day starting time and day ending time as > to AM and PM. In the config dlg there is only the default start time... Or do you mean the working hours? They don't have any influence on the time of new events, they are just used to mark the working hours in the view. > As it is, the KOrganizer allowed me to make a > configuration mistake and struggle with it for a long time. The "New day > begins at" entry and the "Daily Starting hour" in the Work day section > could allow a "work day start" before the "start of the day" I suspect. Yes, and it allows a work day end before the work day start, which is needed e.g. for overnight shifts. All that shouldn't affect korganizer, though. Cheers, Reinhold
Reinhold, I changed the time format and it solved my problem. It is still a trap for the unwary and those with little knowledge of Linux time formats and how to change them, but I can see that it is not a problem caused by korganizer. I used the Mepis setup program and that is how the time format came to be set as it was. Even though the USA is not on the 24 hour clock system, I intend to use it on my computer from now on. Thanks. Jim Fuqua Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: [bugs.kde.org quoted mail] <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000066"> <font size="+1"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Reinhold, I changed the time format and it solved my problem. It is still a trap for the unwary and those with little knowledge of Linux time formats and how to change them, but I can see that it is not a problem caused by korganizer. I used the Mepis setup program and that is how the time format came to be set as it was. Even though the USA is not on the 24 hour clock system, I intend to use it on my computer from now on.<br> <br> Thanks.<br> <br> Jim Fuqua<br> </font></font><br> Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20050904183129.23132.qmail@ktown.kde.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You reported the bug, or are watching the reporter. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112026">http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112026</a> ------- Additional Comments From reinhold kainhofer com 2005-09-04 20:31 ------- Am Sonntag, 4. September 2005 12:32 schrieb Jim Fuqua: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">It is possible to get the end of the day later than the start of the day. As no AM or PM is displayed the configuration screen for KOrganizer does not display the problem once it is inadvertantly entered. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> What is your configured time format (in the control panel)? pH:MM:SS? If so, that's the problem, since it means that 12 hour format *without* am/pm is used, so 07:30 is used for both 7:30 am and 7:30 pm... As this is not unique, it's impossible to correctly interpret any entered time, since korganizer can't know if am or pm is meant. You need to change the system-wide time format to either include the am/pm information or use 24 hour format. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I am new to KDE and for a year I have found it impossible to set an appointment in the afternoon by normal means. The appointment always went to the AM hour instead of the PM hour. For almost a year I accepted the AM setting that I could not avoid (when trying to set a PM setting) and then used the mouse to slide it to the correct PM time. I eventually figured out that I had erroneously set the day starting time and day ending time as to AM and PM. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> In the config dlg there is only the default start time... Or do you mean the working hours? They don't have any influence on the time of new events, they are just used to mark the working hours in the view. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">As it is, the KOrganizer allowed me to make a configuration mistake and struggle with it for a long time. The "New day begins at" entry and the "Daily Starting hour" in the Work day section could allow a "work day start" before the "start of the day" I suspect. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> Yes, and it allows a work day end before the work day start, which is needed e.g. for overnight shifts. All that shouldn't affect korganizer, though. Cheers, Reinhold </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>
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