Bug 98844

Additional suggestion: Implementing this as a separate
app and providing a nice DCOP interface would enable the
user to have personal scripts display some notifications
this (unified) way, too.

E.g. having messages which need to be clicked away would
make this usable for an scriptable logfile watcher app.

*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

[quote]
Additional suggestion: Implementing this as a separate 
 app and providing a nice DCOP interface would enable the 
 user to have personal scripts display some notifications 
 this (unified) way, too. 
[/quote]

This already works, I use things like this in my scripts:
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dcop knotify Notify notify notify "New Volume" "Master: <b>15</b><br>Wave Surround: <b>20</b>" nosound nofile 16 0
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I have had a similar feature request here (even with a small patch):
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66733

But feel free to mark mine as a duplicate of this newer one, since this one has more votes than mine.

This is another one of these duplicate bug reports, so the placement of passive popups seem to be really disturbing to a lot of users :)

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70085

But keep up this bug and mark the other as duplicate, it's the best report in my opinion.

*** Bug 70085 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 66733 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Created attachment 9484 [details]
Patch from BR66733

Attaching the patch from BR66733 so that it doesn't get lost.

Back in my Windows times I used the miranda instant messanger, and it had the most beautiful popup-system I have ever seen:
 
 http://miranda-im.org/download/files/screenshot/1-1-1022569026-popup1005.gif
 
Maybe somebody else can do a real KDE mockup, but I think, kde's popups should look like this and also implement the feature of stacking concurrent popups above each other like in this screenshot.

Check out the mockup on plasma.kde.org. The popups shown there are just  terrific. PLEASE reuse them in knotify.

There must always be an option to disable such popups altogether. Nice if you can do it for all KDE apps at once. I personally find popups more annoying than helpful. What do I care of "a new device in range" while I am editing text in an editor. What do I care if someone in my IM just signed on when I have nothing to say? Or even worse while I am giving a presentation with a beamer! Email notifications distract me from my current task. I want to read email when I have time for it and not when it arrives (that's why it's email and not IM). Everything that suddently pops up and requires immediate interaction (like clicking a button) is annoying. As for the new huge "tool tips" over panel buttons in 3.4: they looked nice first time I saw them, but did not provide any real functionality. So after I had seen them I turned them off because they were just too annoying.

> They looked nice first time I saw them, but did not provide any real
> functionality. So after I had seen them I turned them off because they were
> just too annoying. 

I concur with this rant, it's too bad nobody thought to make them obey the disabled animations setting.  They're slower than dirt.

In any case, passive popups, when enabled, should indeed be stacked.  And always in the same place, which I have a single setting in kcontrol for, not wherever the heck every different app wants to put them.  It seems there's less and less centralization and sanity in KDE these days...

I, for one, like the current popup behaviour. If there's something worst than popups getting covered is a desktop with 10 popups at the same time blocking your screen like it happened with MSN Messenger. I agree with adding more options that would allow for the popup behaviour to be more flexible, but never dismiss the current one because some people actually like it :).

Btw, I also think that the popup's look should be the same as the current KDE theme, but I have no problem with options for altering it to your own personal taste.

I was working on a mockup to Knotify and someone pointed me here.

Check out this link on kde-look: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36308

I am still working and improving the mockups more.
More ideas/comments are also welcome.

I looked at your mockup. I think, these messages must have neutral plasma design, with only some basic colors. Your mockup has too much different and not very nice colors. My mockup is here http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/viewPhoto?uname=milan.krivda&aid=5183112965293793233&iid=5184028690976006178

Both look equally good/bad IMHO, however since we have plasma now, they should probably just reuse the plasma theme (and have icons, Milan's are missing them).

You mean something like this? http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/milan.krivda/KDE4Mockups/photo#5184172417761599570

Same system already exist on Mac OS X http://growl.info/screenshots.php

Last version http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/milan.krivda/KDE4Mockups/photo#5184183112230166626

Milan: Yeah the last iteration is looking really good now. Although is the frame that on of the plasma theme? I meant it should probably just use the same frame as all plasma widgets do. But anyway, your mockup looks good now.

Does kopete use the new kuiserver for notifications. If so, is this bug still valid?

it would be great if more notification methods exist, like keyboard scroll-lock light blinking.

In KDE 4.3 there is a notification system as described in #1. The problem is that some applications are not using it yet or not using it completly. Kopete is an example for the latter. I close this bug and suggest filing bugs against the applications that still don't use the notfication system.