Bug 494896

Summary:	Z-order of plasmoid tooltips below windows with with BSPWM as the window manager
Product:	[Plasma] plasmashell	Reporter:	hiphish
Component:	general	Assignee:	Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Severity:	minor	CC:	kde, kdedev, nate, niccolo
Priority:	NOR	Keywords:	X11-only
Version First Reported In:	6.2.0
Target Milestone:	1.0
Platform:	Other
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
Sentry Crash Report:

Description hiphish 2024-10-16 23:10:05 UTC

SUMMARY

I am using Plasma with BSPWM as my window manager and the z-order of plasmoid tooltips is wrong: they are beneath my windows. This used to work fine on Plasma 5, but it has been broken since Plasma 6. It only affects hovering, clicking the plasmoid works as expected.


STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Use another window manager (BSPWM) in my case
2. Create a Plasma panel, e.g. on the top edge of the screen
3. Add a plasmoid to the panel (e.g. the volume control widget)
4. Open application window (e.g. Dolphin)
5. Hover the mouse over the plasmoid

If the window is transparent you can make out the tooltip of the plasmoid, so it is definitely being rendered, it's just covered by the application window. I would like to attach a screenshot, but the tooltip vanishes every time Spectacle takes a snapshot.

OBSERVED RESULT


EXPECTED RESULT

The tooltip should be rendered above any application windows, just like what you get when you click the plasmoid.


SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: Void Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 6.20
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.6.0
Qt Version: 6.7.2

Comment 1 TraceyC 2025-05-29 20:19:55 UTC

Thanks for the bug report. I'm sorry we weren't able to get to this yet. There have been many fixes and improvements since this was reported, and this issue may have been fixed.

Can you please re-test on your system with Plasma 6.3.5 or later and let us know if you can still reproduce the problem? If you can, please set this back to REPORTED. Thanks!

Comment 2 Bug Janitor Service 2025-06-13 03:48:12 UTC

🐛🧹 ⚠️ This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15 days. Please provide the requested information, then set the bug status to REPORTED. If there is no change for at least 30 days, it will be automatically closed as RESOLVED WORKSFORME.

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Comment 3 Bug Janitor Service 2025-06-28 03:47:53 UTC

🐛🧹 This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 30 days. Closing as RESOLVED WORKSFORME.

Comment 4 hiphish 2025-09-30 17:58:49 UTC

(In reply to TraceyC from comment #1)
> Can you please re-test on your system with Plasma 6.3.5 or later and let us
> know if you can still reproduce the problem? If you can, please set this
> back to REPORTED. Thanks!

Still happens on Plasma 6.4.5. If Plasma does not want to support running a different window manager on X11 I can understand if you want to close this issue as "won't fix", I would simply appreciate an answer whether this is a bug to fix or not.

Comment 5 Nate Graham 2025-09-30 18:52:24 UTC

In general this kind of thing is not really a case of "we won't support it", but rather "we don't use this setup and therefore have no resources to fix it, so if it's gonna get fixed, this will have to come from someone using that exact environment who can submit a patch."

There isn't a great Bugzilla resolution status to cover that!

However, given that BSPWM is an X11-only window manager, that does kind of nudge this specific issue into that territory, since we're starting to phase out X11 support. So low priority X11-specific bugs are beginning to get the "it's now unmaintained" treatment, and I think that's going to have to be the resolution here too.

Probably not the outcome you were hoping for, but I do appreciate your reasonableness and understanding about the whole thing.