Bug 463722

Summary:	Feature Request: Setting for reboot/shutdown timer in settings menu
Product:	[Plasma] plasmashell	Reporter:	BOF <bugs_kde_org.5.kuru>
Component:	Theme - Breeze	Assignee:	Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs-null>
Status:	RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Severity:	wishlist	CC:	nate, visual-bugs-null
Priority:	NOR
Version First Reported In:	5.26.4
Target Milestone:	1.0
Platform:	Other
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
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Description BOF 2023-01-02 11:43:23 UTC

SUMMARY
The default timer to shutdown or reboot your system is 30 seconds. My suggestion is to add a setting to the settings app to change that. The setting would be located under 'Startup and Shutdown'.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Yes, there is a way to change this countdown in a config file: https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=153588.0

However, I didn't find any setting in an app with a GUI. Moreover: I changed the default value from 30 to 5 seconds. After the last Plasma update, this value was reset again.

If such a feature already exists I request to give it a more prominent place or make it easier to find in the search of the settings app.

BTW: I have no idea weather I have placed this request it in the correct tool mailing list or not (I don't think I did, but it was the one that fit best for me). So feel free to move it into the correct location

SYSTEM INFORMATION
Operating System: KDE neon 5.26
KDE Plasma Version: 5.26.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.101.0
Qt Version: 5.15.7
Kernel Version: 5.15.0-56-generic (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 4800H with Radeon Graphics
Memory: 30.8 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD RENOIR
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Product Name: Bravo 17 A4DDR
System Version: REV:1.0

Comment 1 Nate Graham 2023-01-06 22:04:43 UTC

Can you explain your use case for wanting it to be 5 seconds instead of 30 seconds? What's wrong with just hitting the return/enter key to confirm?

Comment 2 BOF 2023-01-07 23:52:04 UTC

(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> Can you explain your use case for wanting it to be 5 seconds instead of 30
> seconds? What's wrong with just hitting the return/enter key to confirm?

In short I would sum it up under efficiency and convenience.

You can avoid an extra input that is actually unnecessary.
It's like Windows 7 which had the perfect layout to shutdown: 2 clicks to shutdown. Every new version added the need of pressing another button to get the same result.

The main idea is to make the counter adjustable - it kinda already is through a config file, but this isn't really intuitive. It is also about adjusting the setting without it being overwritten by a new update.

Comment 3 BOF 2023-01-08 00:25:00 UTC

(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> What's wrong with just hitting the return/enter key to confirm?

Asked from a different point of view: Why does that config when there seems to be no reason to change it? Why not hard coded value with a little '//Suck it up, Buttercup' comment in the code?

Comment 4 Nate Graham 2023-01-09 16:56:41 UTC

> It's like Windows 7 which had the perfect layout to shutdown: 2 clicks to shutdown.
If your goal is to minimize interactions, you can have that in Plasma too if you disable the logout confirmation screen in System Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Desktop Session. Then you can shut down in 2 clicks (first to open Kickoff or Kicker, second click to shut down)

The proposal seems like over-configurability given that the entire logout confirmation screen itself can be disabled for people who want faster interaction. Thanks for the idea anyway though!