| Summary: | Icons in icons only task manager reduce to unusable size when Panel is filled up with other widgets | ||
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| Product: | [Plasma] plasmashell | Reporter: | samuele1.sg |
| Component: | Task Manager and Icons-Only Task Manager | Assignee: | Eike Hein <hein> |
| Status: | CONFIRMED --- | ||
| Severity: | major | CC: | andrew8steele, iwlb, kde, lemmyg, micro_charly, nafendley, nate, nicolas.fella, peterriesde, plasma-bugs, postix |
| Priority: | HI | Keywords: | usability |
| Version: | 5.93.0 | ||
| Target Milestone: | 1.0 | ||
| Platform: | Other | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
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| Bug Depends on: | |||
| Bug Blocks: | 488142 | ||
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This is the icons only task manager after some time my computer is turned on
attachment-14311-0.html Screenshot_20220129_223113.png attachment-9527-0.html video showing the icons scaling issue attachment-21137-0.html Taskbar setup that causes the issue when rotated |
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Hello, did you try with the latest stable 5.23.5 version? I could not reproduce the issue. Regards Galder Created attachment 146021 [details] attachment-14311-0.html Hello, Thank you for the answer, I just updated and, unfortunately, I can still reproduce it. I hope that you or someone else could help me solving it. Thank you all the same Samu Il giorno mer 26 gen 2022 alle ore 16:00 galdera <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> ha scritto: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447603 > > galdera <lemmyg@gmail.com> changed: > > What |Removed |Added > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME > Status|REPORTED |NEEDSINFO > CC| |lemmyg@gmail.com > > --- Comment #1 from galdera <lemmyg@gmail.com> --- > Hello, > did you try with the latest stable 5.23.5 version? > > I could not reproduce the issue. > Regards > Galder > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You reported the bug. Hello, I started to notice similar problem this morning. In my case it happens when I have many widgets in the panel and I started to use the panel with auto hide. Because there is a limited space for non icon task manger widgets, suddenly they started to disappear. The correct behaviour should be to reduce the size of the widget according the existing space but not disappear. I'm using plasma 5.23.5 I'm going to mark this as confirmed to see what the developer says Regards Could you please attach a picture of your entire panel? To see the layout of your widgets. In may case task manager starts to do weird changes to icons when I change the height of panel. Sometimes the icon size doesn't not adapt properly. Regards Created attachment 146055 [details] Screenshot_20220129_223113.png Here you are: [image: Screenshot_20220129_223113.png] Il giorno sab 29 gen 2022 alle ore 10:52 galdera <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> ha scritto: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447603 > > --- Comment #4 from galdera <lemmyg@gmail.com> --- > Could you please attach a picture of your entire panel? > To see the layout of your widgets. > > In may case task manager starts to do weird changes to icons when I > change the > height of panel. > Sometimes the icon size doesn't not adapt properly. > > Regards > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You reported the bug. Hello Samuele, Yesterday, I tried with master version, this is future plasma 5.24.0 version that will be released soon. I think Icon only task manager behaves much better, as I don't see the icons disappearing. I think we need to wait until the version is released because this issue is difficult to replicate. I would also recommend you to try to recreate your panel to see if that helps. Regards, Galder Created attachment 146071 [details] attachment-9527-0.html Thank you very much for the help. I'll try to recerate it. Regards Samuele Il dom 30 gen 2022, 12:14 galdera <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> ha scritto: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447603 > > --- Comment #6 from galdera <lemmyg@gmail.com> --- > Hello Samuele, > Yesterday, I tried with master version, this is future plasma 5.24.0 > version > that will be released soon. I think Icon only task manager behaves much > better, as I don't see the icons disappearing. > > I think we need to wait until the version is released because this issue is > difficult to replicate. I would also recommend you to try to recreate your > panel to see if that helps. > Regards, > Galder > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You reported the bug. Created attachment 146405 [details]
video showing the icons scaling issue
this test was made with current master 5.24.0
Created attachment 146580 [details] attachment-21137-0.html Hello, I finally fixed it: I've configured the global menu, reducing it, and now it's all fine. Thanks for all your help, Regards, Samu Il giorno mar 8 feb 2022 alle ore 15:35 galder <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> ha scritto: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447603 > > galder <lemmyg@gmail.com> changed: > > What |Removed |Added > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Version|5.23.4 |5.24.0 > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You reported the bug. Hello Samuele, I'm glad to read that you found a workaround. Any way the issue still exists, it should be fixed because is very visible. I too can confirm this behaviour after 5.24 was out. When I use laptop with 1920 screen width and about 40% of bottom bar filled with plasmids and miniprograms from the right hand side the task bar with symbols only gets compressed like in the first screenshot. sometimes also icons of a running program is not being displayed and reappears after one more program is started. the cnmpression of the icons does not occur when I use my very wide screen display with 3840 pixels screen width. Here the right positioned icons only make about 20% of screen width. May be the effect only shows when the space left on the left for task bar drops below a certain limit? fun fact. coincidentally I dicovered that this does not occur after I put a second separator next to the existing one. strange. but seems to work around it... A suggestion intended to improve how the pinned icons on the task manager behave. Icons pinned to the task manager is a great idea, so are virtual desktops. I think it would be better when switching from one virtual desktop to another one that the icons remained rather than come and go depending on the status of the application, i.e. running or not. Instead when you click on a pinned icon then if the application is not running, start an instance in the current desktop. As is currently done. On the other hand, if the application is running then switch to the appropriate desktop and bring the application to the top. If a second instance of the application is required then right click to bring up the menu and select duplicate. Colour around the icon could be used to visually indicate if the application is currently running or not. Unfortunately there isn't a generic way to fix this. A panel only has so much space, when when that space is limited, *something* has to scale down to make room for everything else. At a certain point, there's no room for it anymore. In the specific case of this setup, it's possible to improve things by making the Global Menu widget not fill empty space on the panel. It does by default, and so does the Task Manager, so they will compete for that empty space. Turning off space-filling in the Global Menu will allow the Task Manager to take up all the free space and thereafter, it can be right-aligned if you want it to put its internal whitespace on the left side so that there's empty space between the Global Menu and the Task Manager. *** Bug 426060 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 418878 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 436219 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 478259 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** I wish we had a better resolution status than NOT A BUG here, because this clearly *is* a bug, it's just that we don't really have good options for solving it; right now the Task Manager icons are the ones that get squeezed when there's not enough space on the panel, so you see the problem there, but if we made anything else squeeze instead, the problem would simply migrate there. Given the increasing number of duplicates though, it's probably worth applying some creative thinking to the problem. Maybe we can force the Task Manager to move into a multi-row mode, or maybe we can start reducing the size of *everything* on the panel so the squeezyness is shares, rather than only dumped on the Task Manager. Ideas I have for this: 1. Make all the spacers actually width 0 2. collapse as many items as needed in the systemtray into that expandable arrow widget that already holds hidden items 3. Let the clock fall back to a more compact formatting 4. squeeze everything equally 5. force multiple rows Yes I know this is quite complicated and a lot of work... Created attachment 165706 [details]
Taskbar setup that causes the issue when rotated
I have the taskbar setup shown in the attachment, and when I rotate my computer in tablet mode, the tasks all get compressed by the sensor readout to the left of the system tray. I'd like to add to Tammes' idea with the suggestion that custom widgets should have an option to be hidden when space becomes limited. If this was possible, I could set the sensor readout to do this. I think that this behavior would come into play after all VW spacers are fully shrunk and inter-icon spacing is set back to desktop mode, but before the system tray icons are hidden or tasks are compressed. Alternatively, the order in which those steps happen could be user-customizable.
There is a discussion in https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/issues/115, FWIW. Very nice, thanks for linking it. *** Bug 491845 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** |
Created attachment 144909 [details] This is the icons only task manager after some time my computer is turned on SUMMARY *** Hello, I have got a problem with the Icon only task manager. After some time that my computer is turned on, the icons's size in the Icons only task manager gradually reduces, until I can't even see or click on them. This happens only when i click in some apps, like if I'm working on my browser this happens, but when I click on the desktop the size returns at the normal size, or, when I'm working on my first screen, in the second screen it's all ok, but when I click on an app in the second screen Icon size reduces in the second and returns normal in the first. *** STEPS TO REPRODUCE 1. Turn on the computer 2. Open an app 3. Wait EXPECTED RESULT I'd like that the icons only task manager will work fine SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Linux/KDE Plasma: EndeavourOS (available in About System) KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.4 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.89.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2