Bug 446848

Hi,
I think you are talking about click_on_letter?
The goal of the application is to recognize the letters by their name not to learn to read.
I wish your proposition would be easy to do, but it is not, at least in french (I am ground school teacher).
In french a single letter can sound totally differently according to where it is in a word. e can sound en é è and even nothing if it is at the end of the word.
However you have a point and we would like a day to be able to mimic the following app:
http://grapholearn.fr/
Do not hesitate to reply if you think I missed something.
Emmanuel

(In reply to Emmanuel Charruau from comment #1)
> Hi,
> I think you are talking about click_on_letter?
> The goal of the application is to recognize the letters by their name not to
> learn to read.
> I wish your proposition would be easy to do, but it is not, at least in
> french (I am ground school teacher).
> In french a single letter can sound totally differently according to where
> it is in a word. e can sound en é è and even nothing if it is at the end of
> the word.
> However you have a point and we would like a day to be able to mimic the
> following app:
> http://grapholearn.fr/
> Do not hesitate to reply if you think I missed something.
> Emmanuel

Affected all modules with letters.
Yes you right.
For some languages it will be hard to do . But for Russian it is quite easy. We have only 2 actual letters which does not have sound at all it is 'Ъ' and 'ь'. But for only two letters it is much easier to tell children how to read it instead of whole alphabet. Well i created such report at least to start a discussion notice what kind of issues appear.  And to try to find good solution for as more as possible languages. To be realistic letter names usage  in real world quite limited . In my mind i have only alphabet organized catalogues like phonebook and dictionaries. I not have any another real example where it used. So in my opinion real sounds is more important to know. But i am understand your point . May be somebody from community have suggestions.

Hi,

thank you for the report and sorry for not answering sooner.
I think both sounds make sense but there should be a specific activity to learn the sound of the letters. Here the activities are really about the letters: click on letter, missing letter...
When it makes sense to have the sound of the letter, the word is spoken so we have the "good" sound of the letter for the word (which may vary depending on where the letter is in the word, which letters are around it...).

So adding new activities like: "which sound(s) makes the letter", "find all the word where this sound is spoken" (which would be good for example to make the differentiation of the same letter with different sounds) would be more interesting for me than changing the actual ones

We do this type of activity everyday with pupils learning to read, and even before the age of 6 without reading, just asking if pupils hear the sound [a] or do not ear the sound [a] for example. This would be a great activity! One little difficulty I see here is, how good will be the translation teams for this kind of exercises. This is not anymore just a translation task but, they will need to do a real pedagogical work. We have the material to do it (see enrich your vocabulary), and the task is not difficult to program. 
We need to properly introduce these kind of activities (maybe via youtube videos) to the translation teams and explain how important it is to create the datasets properly and do real tests.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Is it a duplicate for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428863 ?

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 428863 ***