Bug 438446

Summary:	Cannot see highlights in Icons Only Task Manager without tooltips preview.
Product:	[Plasma] plasmashell	Reporter:	chardo137
Component:	Task Manager and Icons-Only Task Manager widgets	Assignee:	Eike Hein <hein>
Status:	RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Severity:	normal	CC:	bharadwaj.raju777, groszdanielpub, kde, nate, plasma-bugs-null
Priority:	NOR	Keywords:	regression
Version First Reported In:	5.22.0
Target Milestone:	1.0
Platform:	Arch Linux
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
Sentry Crash Report:

Description chardo137 2021-06-11 04:16:07 UTC

SUMMARY
Unable to see highlights without tooltips blocking the view. This seems to be the default behavior in 5.22.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. This is how it works since the update.
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OBSERVED RESULT
Lost the ability to have highlights without tooltips

EXPECTED RESULT
Would like to have the old behavior back.

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Windows: 
macOS: 
Linux/KDE Plasma: Arch Linux, X11, kernel 5.12.9-zen1
(available in About System)
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.82.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Tooltips keep blocking what I am trying to see in the highlight while working in another app, and I can't get to highlights without them. Having highlights without tooltips was so much more useful. I know this is working like you intended it, but it is much less useful for me. At least give us the option to go back to the old behavior.

Comment 1 Nate Graham 2021-06-14 16:16:49 UTC

Yeah we changed the implementation in https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/383.

I had a feeling that at least one person would hate the new version and we would eventually wind up bringing back the old option as an off-by-default option (ugh), with a UI sort of like this:

Highlight window: ( ) When hovering over Task
                  (o) When hovering over Task's tooltip thumbnail
                  ( ) Never

Comment 2 Nate Graham 2021-06-17 18:09:54 UTC

Bharadwaj, what are your thoughts?

Comment 3 Bharadwaj Raju 2021-06-17 18:22:42 UTC

I'd prefer less config, but I suppose we can add it if it's breaking people's workflow.

This would affect bug 433764 as well — if user chooses to highlight when hovering on Task, it would also highlight when hovering on textual list (which has the problems mentioned in that report), unless we add special logic to the Task component to change highlighting behaviour based on where it is being used.

Comment 4 Bharadwaj Raju 2021-06-17 18:23:06 UTC

Sorry, meant bug 437794

Comment 5 kde 2021-07-21 15:06:18 UTC

Hi, I'd like to chime in too, to say I really got used to (and liked) the way it was before (even if most found it distracting as it seems) and would very much like to have an option to enable it, like Nate proposed.

Comment 6 Grósz Dániel 2021-08-02 19:58:37 UTC

This also applies to the regular Task Manager, and I also prefer the old behavior.

Comment 7 Nate Graham 2022-02-07 17:05:23 UTC

No more complaints since then; not sure it's worth doing this IMO...

Comment 8 kde 2022-02-07 18:13:47 UTC

(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #7)
> No more complaints since then; not sure it's worth doing this IMO...

I have adjusted to use alt tab with previews instead but I liked the previous behavior. I guess this bug is a case of xkcd 1172. You can certainly close the bug IMO.

Comment 9 Nate Graham 2022-02-07 18:27:05 UTC

LOL yeah probably. Thanks. :)