Bug 421044

Summary:	"Titlebar buttons" tab sholud be moved outside of "Look and feel" section
Product:	[Applications] systemsettings	Reporter:	Paolo Zamponi <feus73>
Component:	kcm_kwindecoration	Assignee:	KWin default assignee <kwin-bugs-null>
Status:	RESOLVED MOVED
Severity:	wishlist	CC:	hugo.pereira.da.costa, nate, plasma-bugs
Priority:	NOR	Flags:	feus73: Usability+ feus73: VisualDesign+
Version:	5.18.4
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	openSUSE
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
Attachments:	Window decoration

Description Paolo Zamponi 2020-05-05 07:53:33 UTC

SUMMARY
Although the title bar buttons are inside the windows, I think they are mostly controls. So the "Titlebar buttons" tab should be moved outside of the "Look and feel -> Windows decoration" module, imho.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
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OBSERVED RESULT
It's no obvious for all to find "controls" in the "Look and feel" section.

EXPECTED RESULT
This tab should be moved elsewhere, maybe in Workspace -> Window Management.

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma:
(available in About System)
KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.69
Qt Version: 5.14.1

Comment 1 Nate Graham 2020-05-05 14:06:19 UTC

Hmm, maybe you're using an old version or there's a bad translation? These settings are currently in Application Style > Window Decorations; there is no longer anything visible in the System Settings UI called "Look and feel".

Comment 2 Paolo Zamponi 2020-05-05 14:35:57 UTC

Created attachment 128177 [details]
Window decoration

Yes, sorry, it's "Appearance" :). I just wanna say that "Titlebar buttons" are not "Decoration", imho. So I think this tab should be moved.

Comment 3 Hugo Pereira Da Costa 2020-05-05 14:39:26 UTC

Could it move to "Window Behavior" ?

Comment 4 Paolo Zamponi 2020-05-05 14:47:00 UTC

Yes, I think it would be more obvious :) .(In reply to Hugo Pereira Da Costa from comment #3)
> Could it move to "Window Behavior" ?

Comment 5 Nate Graham 2020-05-05 15:54:25 UTC

Yeah, the phrase "Window Decorations" is an implementation detail leaking into the UI. The average user doesn't piece together that the titlebar is a thing drawn by the window manager and not technically a part of the window itself.

Perhaps we should either collapse this KCM into the "Application Style" KCM (because windows are a part of applications), or else put it somewhere in "Window Management" (because window decorations are a part of windows). Or maybe something else.

Either way, we already have a Phab task about re-organizing KCMs: https://phabricator.kde.org/T8871

Let's continue the discussion there.

Comment 6 Christoph Feck 2020-05-05 21:03:57 UTC

Some decorations don't respect the button configuration.

Comment 7 Paolo Zamponi 2020-05-06 10:02:19 UTC

(In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #6)
> Some decorations don't respect the button configuration.

I don't know, anyway I always use Breeze ;)...