| Summary: | Get Involved page available | ||
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| Product: | [Websites] www.kde.org | Reporter: | Andrew Crouthamel <andrew.crouthamel> |
| Component: | general | Assignee: | kde-www mailing-list <kde-www> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | normal | CC: | aacid, nate, neofytosk |
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | unspecified | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | Other | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
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Description
Andrew Crouthamel
2018-09-08 19:05:31 UTC
Removing pages is never a good idea. You end up with broken links and that's bad. That's fine, then that URL should have a redirect to the current location which is on the community Wiki. Having duplicate content which is out of date, is not good for web Crawlers, or the people who happen to land on that page like myself. Which is the url in the community wiki? https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved which is the same link the Get Involved button takes you to from kde.org. Personally i always feel a bit uneasy about doing redirects like that. I'd like to understand why the wiki was created if we already had a get involved webpage. Was it because the people writing the wiki didn't know the existing one existed? Was it some other reason? Also who am I/you to decide the wiki content is better than the other page? Is there an actual consensus on that? (In reply to Albert Astals Cid from comment #5) > Was it because the people writing the wiki didn't know the existing one > existed? Not knowing the reason, I suspect this is the case. > Was it some other reason? There is a major advantage to having it a wiki: the barrier to editing it is vastly smaller than for a webpage on kde.org. Even most people with contributor accounts don't have access to the website. As a result... > Also who am I/you to decide the wiki content is better than the other page? I can confidently state that the wiki content is now better than the website content, because I and others have been working on improving it for the past year, because it's a wiki. https://www.kde.org/get-involved on the other hand is terribly out of date and lacks most of the information on https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/. It is not actually a useful source of information. > Is there an actual consensus on that? Sounds like we should ask folks and see if we can come to one. :) I feel we're going to get sidetracked here, as the issue is relating to an unlinked, dead page. But: (In reply to Albert Astals Cid from comment #5) > Personally i always feel a bit uneasy about doing redirects like that. Why? It's normal throughout the web. (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #6) > > Was it some other reason? > There is a major advantage to having it a wiki: the barrier to editing it is > vastly smaller than for a webpage on kde.org. Even most people with > contributor accounts don't have access to the website. As a result... I agree with this, and something I'd like to bring up at a later date is moving other pages that have been left to rot, to Wiki-style for this same reason. Jep let's change it. Not good to have two. The wiki one is more maintained and seems to have a future. Cool. Who has the power to do this? ...I guess technically I do since I have write access to the repo backing kde.org. But my web skills are close to non-existent, so someone would have to walk me through the process. (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #9) > Cool. Who has the power to do this? > > ...I guess technically I do since I have write access to the repo backing > kde.org. But my web skills are close to non-existent, so someone would have > to walk me through the process. There a few ways, the most common is with .htaccess such as: Redirect /get-involved https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved ^ I do not guarantee that is 100% correct, but it is close. SVN commit 1524935 by aacid: Redirect get-involved to https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved M +2 -191 get-involved.php WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1524935 I think it's a very bad idea to move things to the wiki, we have restricted commits right to www for a reason, but oh well, new times :D Thanks Albert! New times indeed. :) For what it's worth, so far our new wiki Get Involved page has been a big hit. |