Bug 369399

Summary:	No "What's this" help in Dolphin > Share > Share with Samba
Product:	[Applications] dolphin	Reporter:	skierpage <info>
Component:	general	Assignee:	Dolphin Bug Assignee <dolphin-bugs-null>
Status:	RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Severity:	normal	CC:	bugseforuns, codestruct, elvis.angelaccio, JasonW94, lueck, mail, nate
Priority:	NOR	Keywords:	junior-jobs
Version First Reported In:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Kubuntu
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
Sentry Crash Report:

Description skierpage 2016-09-26 20:52:11 UTC

I'm running Kubuntu 16.04 with the KDE backports: Dolphin 15.12.3, KDE Frameworks 5.23.0, and Plasma shell 5.6.5; none of these are choices in this bug's Version field and I don't know how to tell what version of kio I have.

I'm trying to share a folder with a Windows client. In Dolphin, a folder's Properties > Share has a promising dialog  Share with Samba. But I can't get it to work, and none of its fields have any help to guide me.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Start Dolphin
2. Right-click on a directory, choose Properties > Share
3. Click the (?) in the window title bar or click Shift+F1
4. See if you can get any help for any item in the dialog.

Actual Results:  
No help.

Expected Results:  
"When the user activates the question mark button and doesn't get any help window when clicking on a user interface element, he will get frustrated very quickly." -- https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Architecture/KDE4/Providing_Online_Help :-)

I was unable to find *any* documentation anywhere for the Share panel in KDE Frameworks 5. In KDE Help Center, Dolphin help doesn't mention it and Kioslaves > smb only documents the smb: protocol to access SMB shares, not to offer a Samba share. Google coughs up old documentation and an old bug that the Share panel wasn't present.

Comment 1 Nate Graham 2017-08-18 21:53:40 UTC

FWIW, as you have discovered Samba sharing in Dolphin is rather problematic, regardless of the (lack of) help files. We are tracking the following common issues (as well as many others):

- Browsing Samba workgroups is unreliable
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369850

- Opening files on password-protected Samba shares is unreliable
- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361490

- Can't share your whole home directory with Samba
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381301

- Dolphin doesn't prompt you to create a Samba password when necessary
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381688
-- Workaround: run `sudo smbpasswd -a <user>`

- Drag-and-drop doesn't work with Samba shares accessed through Dolphin
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355817

- Copy-and-paste on Samba shares only works one file at a time
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357199

- Copying files to a Samba share resets their timestamp
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356651

- Can't open videos on Samba shares
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355328

- SMB shared not discovered via Zeroconf/Bonjour/Avahi
-- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189693



I had a similar problem and resolved it with `sudo smbpasswd -a <my user name>`

Comment 2 Julian Steinmann 2018-07-15 13:11:36 UTC

The original problem (missing tooltips for samba) isn't resolved with Dolphin 18.04.3, so I'll confirm the report. Theoretically this should be an easy fix if we can write up a good tooltip to display to the user.

Comment 3 Patrick Silva 2019-03-25 18:24:07 UTC

still no tooltips in Dolphin 18.12.3, Arch Linux.

Comment 4 Jason Walker 2020-10-03 06:40:47 UTC

It looks to me like the entire folder properties dialog doesn't have a tooltip, nor do any of the tabs on the dialog. Does that subsume this bug? We could

(1) Create one tooltip for the whole dialog, with a brief summary of each tab (General, Permissions, Details, Share)

or (2) Create a separate tooltip for each tab with more detail on each tab than 1 would have

or (3) Create different tooltips for controls within the tabs. (Overkill?)

I could potentially work on this, but I wanted to make sure that I'm not missing something first. Just dipping my toe into KDE development!

Observed in Dolphin 20.08.1 from Manjaro packages, and 20.11.70 running from source.

Comment 5 Nate Graham 2020-10-04 15:48:42 UTC

We recently ported the dialog to QML (to be released in version 20.12) which doesn't support the "What's This" feature, which we're generally moving away from anyway. The new UI has tooltips. Please file specific bugs on anything that doesn't work or is missing a tooltip but would benefit from one. Thanks!