Bug 232205

Summary:	plasma sometimes does not provide a handle to switch to a certain activity
Product:	[Unmaintained] plasma4	Reporter:	Martin Steigerwald <Martin>
Component:	activities	Assignee:	Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Severity:	normal	CC:	asraniel, hr.denzler
Priority:	NOR
Version:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Debian testing
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
Sentry Crash Report:
Bug Depends on:
Bug Blocks:	232215
Attachments:	I want to select the "Documents" activity with the red leaf background, but there is no zoom out handle TwinView with 2 panels with activity bar

Description Martin Steigerwald 2010-03-26 12:05:49 UTC

Version:            (using KDE 4.4.1)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Debian testing/unstable Packages

After plasma shuffles around my activities at will (see bug #232171 and bug #232203) I want to clean up the mess. But now Plasma doesn't let me.

I have four activities, each one on one desktop:

+---------------- +----------------+
| 1: Information  | 2:Documents    |
|                 |                |
|                 |                |
+-----------------+----------------+
| 3:Communication | 4:System       |
|                 |                |
|                 |                |
+-----------------+----------------+

Plasma put a generic activity named "Arbeitsfläche" where I want to have and where has been "Documents" before as I wanted to fix that Plasma shuffled around Communication and System by selecting Communication for desktop 3 and Systems for desktop 4. On selecting Communication for desktop 3 Plasma selected System for desktop 4 and "Arbeitsfläche" for desktop 2.

Now I wanted to set "Documents" for desktop 2 again. Thus I went to desktop 2, chose "Verkleinern" (zoom in) and wanted to zoom out to the "Documents" activity - the one with he red leaf background. But Plasma didn't provide a zoom out handle it. I provide a screenshot.

So Plasma messed up my activity setup and doesn't let me correct it.

Expected results:

Plasma lets me select the activity I want to have on the desktop. Again Plasma should let *me* decide. I *know* what I am doing.

BTW I have seen similar bugs in KDE 4.3 upto 4.3.4.

Comment 1 Martin Steigerwald 2010-03-26 12:10:03 UTC

Created attachment 42270 [details]
I want to select the "Documents" activity with the red leaf background, but there is no zoom out handle

half of the original size cause of the 1MB attachment limit

Comment 2 Martin Steigerwald 2010-03-26 13:10:49 UTC

After logout and login again Plasma finally provided that handle and I set the Documents activity for desktop 2. Now my setup is back as I wished it to have and this survived at least one logout and login cycle in order to save that setup.

Comment 3 Hans-Rudi Denzler 2010-03-26 22:00:37 UTC

In KDE 4.3.5 I could select "different activity on each desktop".
In KDE 4.4.1 the default is "same activity on each desktop". I cannot choose "different activity ..." anymore.
In my TwinView system I added 2 autohide panels with an activity bar widget. Switching activities works as you would expect it.

Comment 4 Hans-Rudi Denzler 2010-03-26 22:03:43 UTC

Created attachment 42283 [details]
TwinView with 2 panels with activity bar

Comment 5 Martin Steigerwald 2010-03-28 15:41:59 UTC

You can find this setting in systemsettings (Systemeinstellungen):

"Virtuelle Arbeitsflächen" under "Unterschiedliche Aktivitäten für jede virtuelle Arbeitsfläche"

roughly translated: "virtual desktops" under "different activities for each virtual desktop"

I still prefer that settings cause I want to group applications and plasmoids together. Just switching the plasmoid collection doesn't make much sense to me.

I want to have system related plasmoids like cpu / memory monitoring on my system activity where I also have a konsole opened for system administration. I like disk free space monitoring on my documents activity where I work with documents / files and have dolphin running. I like information related plasmoids like weather plasmoid (if it would work correctly... see bug #232469) on my information activity where I have my webbrowser. And so on.

Comment 6 Hans-Rudi Denzler 2010-03-28 18:18:40 UTC

TwinView with 2 panels with activity bar and "different activities for each
virtual desktop" does not work yet as you would expect it.
Without using "cashew-symbol > minimize" I would like to change activity names, configure activities, choose activities on left or right monitor. This is not yet possible.

Future Example
Activities: A1, A2, A3
          Left monitor:  Right monitor:
Desktop:
1             A1             A2
2             A1             A3
3             A1             A2

But this needs a different design, I guess.

Comment 7 Beat Wolf 2010-05-05 20:26:39 UTC

The activity overview has been replaced completely in 4.5, so this bug is no longer valid.