Bug 221478

Summary:	"KDE System Notifications" entry is missing in the "Event Source" combobox in the KNotifyKCM, even when the notifyrc file is present
Product:	[Applications] systemsettings	Reporter:	Nathanel Titane <nathanel.titane>
Component:	kcm_notify	Assignee:	Olivier Goffart <ogoffart>
Status:	RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Severity:	normal	CC:	andresbajotierra, echidnaman, kdelibs-bugs
Priority:	NOR
Version:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	Ubuntu
OS:	Unspecified
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed In:
Sentry Crash Report:
Attachments:	Bug screenshot - System notification missing entry

Description Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 05:51:49 UTC

Version:            (using KDE 4.3.3)
Installed from:    Ubuntu Packages

i usually install kde viaubuntu distro package repositories. I have found that somehow, configuration files gor randomely wrong on certain installs and fail to show the System Notifications option in the roll-out menu under system settings>notifications.

as of now.. my laptop shows the option but not my desktop...

any fix to this annoyance?

Comment 1 Dario Andres 2010-01-06 20:25:46 UTC

This kind of problems usually appears after installation issues...
The entries inside SystemSettings are created from .desktop files in the filesystem.

Try reinstalling the kdebase* packages.

Regards

Comment 2 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 20:28:25 UTC

Good but reinstalling shouldn't be the fix... What would make it misconfigure according to you... Note that kde-minimal is the first package i install
------Original Message------
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To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
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Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 2:25 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478


Dario Andres <andresbajotierra@gmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-06 20:25:46 ---
This kind of problems usually appears after installation issues...
The entries inside SystemSettings are created from .desktop files in the
filesystem.

Try reinstalling the kdebase* packages.

Regards

Comment 3 Dario Andres 2010-01-06 20:34:50 UTC

- When did you noticed the missing entry ?
- Do you have this file: "/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" ?
- Do you have the "kdebase-runtime-data" package installed ?
- Can you access the System Notifications config launching "kcmshell4 kcmnotify
" from Konsole ?

The System Settings entries for the different configuration modules cannot be removed by "misconfigured/modified config files". It could have dissapeared if you removed some KDE file from the filesystem, or if the file was removed by a broken package update.

Regards

Comment 4 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 20:48:37 UTC

On my laptop everything is there and works as intended except for having kdebase-runtime-data... 

I'll verifiy on my desktop to see later whats missing and i'll see if the runtime pckg install fixes...
------Original Message------
From: Dario Andres
Sender: bugzilla_noreply@kde.org
To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
ReplyTo: bug-control@bugs.kde.org
Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 2:37 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478

--- Comment #3 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-06 20:34:50 ---
- When did you noticed the missing entry ?
- Do you have this file: "/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" ?
- Do you have the "kdebase-runtime-data" package installed ?
- Can you access the System Notifications config launching "kcmshell4 kcmnotify
" from Konsole ?

The System Settings entries for the different configuration modules cannot be
removed by "misconfigured/modified config files". It could have dissapeared if
you removed some KDE file from the filesystem, or if the file was removed by a
broken package update.

Regards

Comment 5 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 22:08:21 UTC

Ok.. I've just checked my desktop system and it's'all there too... Though you most probaby misunderstood the issue...

(He problem is that I do not have the actual System Notifications entry within kcmnotify.desktop module... I have most of the currently installed programme entries but not that specific one..

Any help?
------Original Message------
From: Dario Andres
Sender: bugzilla_noreply@kde.org
To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
ReplyTo: bug-control@bugs.kde.org
Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 2:37 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478

--- Comment #3 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-06 20:34:50 ---
- When did you noticed the missing entry ?
- Do you have this file: "/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" ?
- Do you have the "kdebase-runtime-data" package installed ?
- Can you access the System Notifications config launching "kcmshell4 kcmnotify
" from Konsole ?

The System Settings entries for the different configuration modules cannot be
removed by "misconfigured/modified config files". It could have dissapeared if
you removed some KDE file from the filesystem, or if the file was removed by a
broken package update.

Regards

Comment 6 Dario Andres 2010-01-06 22:24:10 UTC

- Could you post a screenshot of the bug ?

> (He problem is that I do not have the actual System Notifications entry within
> kcmnotify.desktop module... I have most of the currently installed programme
> entries but not that specific one..

So, you have the file "/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" in your system, but the the entry doesn't appear on System Settings ? That seems weird..

- Could you also post here the first lines of the "/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" file ?

Regards

Comment 7 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 23:08:25 UTC

Exactly!
------Original Message------
From: Dario Andres
Sender: bugzilla_noreply@kde.org
To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
ReplyTo: bug-control@bugs.kde.org
Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 4:24 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478





--- Comment #6 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-06 22:24:10 ---
- Could you post a screenshot of the bug ?

> (He problem is that I do not have the actual System Notifications entry within
> kcmnotify.desktop module... I have most of the currently installed programme
> entries but not that specific one..

So, you have the file "/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" in your
system, but the the entry doesn't appear on System Settings ? That seems
weird..

- Could you also post here the first lines of the
"/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" file ?

Regards

Comment 8 Dario Andres 2010-01-06 23:13:15 UTC

- Could you also post here the first lines of the
"/usr/share/kde4/services/kcmnotify.desktop" file ?
Thanks

Comment 9 Dario Andres 2010-01-06 23:18:57 UTC

Also, please answer this:

- When did you noticed the missing entry ?

- Can you access the System Notifications config launching "kcmshell4 kcmnotify
" from Konsole ?

- Could you post a screenshot of the bug ?

Comment 10 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 23:20:55 UTC

I've had this bug eversince i started doing the custom install for a minimal kde system... Its random bc sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesnt..
------Original Message------
From: Dario Andres
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To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
ReplyTo: bug-control@bugs.kde.org
Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 5:18 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478





--- Comment #9 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-06 23:18:57 ---
Also, please answer this:

- When did you noticed the missing entry ?

- Can you access the System Notifications config launching "kcmshell4 kcmnotify
" from Konsole ?

- Could you post a screenshot of the bug ?

Comment 11 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 23:23:10 UTC

Yes i can access kcmnotify via the shell on konsole and on krunner but no entry for the sound notifications at the system level
------Original Message------
From: Dario Andres
Sender: bugzilla_noreply@kde.org
To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
ReplyTo: bug-control@bugs.kde.org
Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 5:18 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478





--- Comment #9 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-06 23:18:57 ---
Also, please answer this:

- When did you noticed the missing entry ?

- Can you access the System Notifications config launching "kcmshell4 kcmnotify
" from Konsole ?

- Could you post a screenshot of the bug ?

Comment 12 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 23:27:28 UTC

On January 6, 2010 05:18:58 pm Dario Andres wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Comment #9 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  
2010-01-06
>  23:18:57 --- Also, please answer this:
> 
> - When did you noticed the missing entry ?
> 
> - Can you access the System Notifications config launching 
"kcmshell4
>  kcmnotify " from Konsole ?
> 
> - Could you post a screenshot of the bug ?
> 
here are the command lines found on kcmnotify.desktop when i open 
with Kate:

[Desktop Entry]
Exec=kcmshell4 kcmnotify
Icon=preferences-desktop-notification
Type=Service
X-KDE-ServiceTypes=KCModule
X-DocPath=kcontrol/kcmnotify/index.html

X-KDE-Library=kcm_knotify
X-KDE-ParentApp=kcontrol

X-KDE-System-Settings-Parent-Category=notifications
X-KDE-Weight=50

Name=System Notifications

Comment=System Notification Configuration

X-KDE-Keywords=System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification,popups
X-KDE-Keywords[af]=Stelsel 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification
X-KDE-Keywords[be]=Сістэмныя гукі,Аўдыё,Гук,Нагадванне,Важныя 
нагадванні,Нагадваць,System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification
X-KDE-Keywords[bg]=Keywords=системен, звук, уведомяване, 
информация, грешка, събития, System sounds, Audio, Sound, 
Notify, Alerts, Notification
X-KDE-Keywords[br]=sonioù ar reizhiad,klevet,son,kemenn,evezh
X-KDE-Keywords[ca]=Sons del 
sistema,Àudio,So,Notifica,Alertes,Notificació
X-KDE-Keywords[cs]=Systémové 
zvuky,Audio,Oznámit,Varování,Oznámení
X-KDE-Keywords[csb]=Systemòwé zwãczi,Audio,Zwãk,Dôwac 
wiédzã,Alarmë,Dôwanié wiédzë
X-KDE-Keywords[cy]=Sain 
cysawd,Awdio,Swn,Hysbysu,Rhybuddion,Hysbysiad
X-KDE-
Keywords[da]=Systemlyde,audio,Lyd,Bekendtgør,Advarsler,Bekendtgørelse
X-KDE-
Keywords[de]=Klänge,Systemklänge,Audio,Sound,Benachrichtigung,Nachricht,Alarm,Signalton,Beep
X-KDE-Keywords[el]=Ήχοι 
συστήματος,Audio,Ήχος,Ειδοποιώ,Συναγερμοί,Ειδοποίηση
X-KDE-
Keywords[eo]=sistemo,sonoroj,aŭdio,sono,atentigo,alarmo,operaciumo
X-KDE-Keywords[es]=Sonidos del 
sistema,Audio,Sonido,Notificar,Alertas,Notificación
X-KDE-Keywords[et]=süsteemsed helid,audio,heli,märguanded,alarm
X-KDE-Keywords[eu]=Sistemaren 
soinuak,Audioa,Soinua,Jakinarazi,Alertak,Jakinarazpenak
X-KDE-Keywords[fa]=صداهای سیستم، صوتی، صوت، اخطار، هشدار، اخطار
X-KDE-Keywords[fi]=Järjestelmä-
äänet,Äänet,Huomauttaa,Varoitukset,Huomautus
X-KDE-Keywords[fr]=sons du 
système,son,audio,notification,alertes,événements
X-KDE-
Keywords[fy]=systeemlûden,audio,lûd,warskôgingen,lûdssinjaal,oankundiging
X-KDE-Keywords[gl]=Sons do 
sistema,Audio,Son,Notificar,Alertas,Notificación
X-KDE-Keywords[he]=צלילי מערכת,שמע,צליל,הודעה,תזכורות, System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification
X-KDE-Keywords[hr]=System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification,Zvuk,Sistemski 
zvukovi,Obavijesti,Upozorenja,Obavijest
X-KDE-
Keywords[hu]=rendszerhangok,audió,hang,figyelmeztető,vészjelző
X-KDE-Keywords[is]=Kerfishljóð,Hljóð,Tilkynningar,Villur,Bjalla
X-KDE-Keywords[it]=Suoni di 
sistema,Audio,Suono,Notifica,Avvisi,Messaggi
X-KDE-Keywords[ja]=システムサウンド,オーディオ,サウンド,通知, アラート,通知
X-KDE-Keywords[ka]=სისტემის 
ხმები,აუდიო,ხმა,შეტყობინება,განგაში,შეტყობინება
X-KDE-Keywords[km]=សំឡេងប្រព័ន្ធ អូឌីយ៉ូ សំឡេ
ង ជូនដំណឹង ជូនដំណឹង ការជូនដំណឹង
X-KDE-Keywords[ko]=시스템 소리,오디오,알림,경고
X-KDE-Keywords[lt]=Sistemos 
garsai,Audio,Garsas,Pranešimas,Perspėjimai
X-KDE-Keywords[lv]=Sistēmas 
skaņas,Audio,Skaņa,Paziņo,Brīdinājumi,Paziņošana
X-KDE-Keywords[mk]=System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification,Системски 
звуци,Аудио,Звук,Извести,Предупредувања,Известувања
X-KDE-
Keywords[nb]=Systemlyder,Lyd,Varsle,Advarsel,Varsling,alarm,signal
X-KDE-
Keywords[nds]=Systeemkläng,Audio,Klang,Notify,Bescheed,Notification,Bescheed 
geven
X-KDE-Keywords[ne]=प्रणाली ध्वनि, अडियो, ध्वनि, सूचित, चेतावनी, सूचना
X-KDE-
Keywords[nl]=systeemgeluiden,audio,geluid,waarschuwingen,geluidssignaal,notificatie
X-KDE-Keywords[nn]=systemlydar,lyd,påminning,varsel,alarm,signal
X-KDE-Keywords[pa]=ਸਿਸਟਮ ਧੁਨੀ,ਆਡੀਓ,ਧੁਨੀ,ਸੂਚਨਾ,ਚੇਤਾਵਨੀ,ਸੂਚਨਾਵਾਂ
X-KDE-Keywords[pl]=Dźwieki 
systemowe,Audio,Dźwiek,Powiadamiac,Alarmy,Powiadamianie
X-KDE-Keywords[pt]=Sons de 
Sistema,Áudio,Som,Notificar,Alertas,Notificação
X-KDE-Keywords[pt_BR]=Sons do 
sistema,Áudio,Som,Notificação,Alertas,Notificação
X-KDE-Keywords[ro]=sunete de sistem,audio,sunet,alertă,notificare
X-KDE-
Keywords[se]=vuogádatjienat,jietna,audio,dieđihit,váruhusat,signála
X-KDE-Keywords[sl]=sistemski zvoki,avdio,zvok,obvestila,alarmi
X-KDE-Keywords[sr]=System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification,системски 
звуци,аудио,звук,обавештења,аларми
X-KDE-Keywords[sr@latin]=System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification,sistemski 
zvuci,audio,zvuk,obaveštenja,alarmi
X-KDE-
Keywords[sv]=Systemljud,Ljud,ljud,Underrättelse,Varningar,Bekräftelse
X-KDE-Keywords[ta]=அமைப்பு 
ஒலிகள்,கேட்பொலி,ஒலி,தெரியப்படுத்து,எச்சரிக்கைகள்,தெரியப்படுத்துதல்
X-KDE-Keywords[th]=ระบบเสียง,ออดิโอ,เสียง,แจ้งเตือน,เตือน,การแจ้งเตือน
X-KDE-Keywords[tr]=Sistem sesleri,Ses,Bildir,Alarmlar,Bildirme
X-KDE-Keywords[uk]=системні 
звуки,аудіо,audio,звук,повідомлення,попередження,сповіщення
X-KDE-Keywords[uz]=Тизим товуш сигналлари,Аудио,Товуш,Хабар 
бериш,Хабарномалар
X-KDE-Keywords[vi]=Âm thanh hệ thống,Âm,Âm thanh,Thông báo,Cảnh 
báo,Thông báo
X-KDE-Keywords[wa]=sons do 
sistinme,odio,son,notifyî,abranles,notifiaedje
X-KDE-Keywords[x-test]=xxSystem 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notificationxx
X-KDE-Keywords[xh]=Izandi zendlela,Evakalayo,Isandi,Yazisa,Izilumkiso 
zengozi,Izaziso
X-KDE-Keywords[zh_CN]=System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification,系统音效,音频,音效,通知,警报
X-KDE-Keywords[zh_TW]=System 
sounds,Audio,Sound,Notify,Alerts,Notification,系統音效,音效,通知,警報

Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-sound;
X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_kdebase-runtime


theres a screenie attached to this reply... i can access kcmnotify via 
konsole, via krunner and by clicking on it when i go to the specified 
directory... but no trace of the system sound notifications option in 
the rolling menu

Comment 13 Jonathan Thomas 2010-01-06 23:30:39 UTC

Does running kbuildsycoca4 on the effected systems solve this issue?

Comment 14 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 23:34:31 UTC

Nope...
------Original Message------
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Sender: bugzilla_noreply@kde.org
To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
ReplyTo: bug-control@bugs.kde.org
Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 5:31 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478


Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman kubuntu org>  2010-01-06 23:30:39 ---
Does running kbuildsycoca4 on the effected systems solve this issue?

Comment 15 Dario Andres 2010-01-06 23:45:44 UTC

Please attach the screenshot using this link: https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?bugid=221478&action=enter
Thanks

Comment 16 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-06 23:49:04 UTC

Created attachment 39631 [details]
Bug screenshot - System notification missing entry

Comment 17 Dario Andres 2010-01-06 23:59:18 UTC

Thanks for the screenshot!
Indeed, I missunderstood the issue.

The "KDE System Notifications" entry in the combobox list is from this file:
"/usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc" which is from the "kdebase-runtime-data" package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kde.notifyrc&mode=&suite=karmic&arch=any)

- Do you have the file "/usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc" ?

Regards

Comment 18 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-07 00:01:59 UTC

Yes I do have it... Even under the home directory hidden entries...

Weird...
------Original Message------
From: Dario Andres
Sender: bugzilla_noreply@kde.org
To: nathanel.titane@gmail.com
ReplyTo: bug-control@bugs.kde.org
Subject: [Bug 221478] System notifications option missing
Sent: Jan 6, 2010 5:59 PM

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478





--- Comment #17 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-06 23:59:18 ---
Thanks for the screenshot!
Indeed, I missunderstood the issue.

The "KDE System Notifications" entry in the combobox list is from this file:
"/usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc" which is from the
"kdebase-runtime-data" package
(http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kde.notifyrc&mode=&suite=karmic&arch=any)

- Do you have the file "/usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc" ?

Regards

Comment 19 Dario Andres 2010-01-07 00:04:07 UTC

Reopening

Comment 20 Nathanel Titane 2010-01-08 05:40:21 UTC

would you consider it safe at this stage to upgrade to 4.4?? maybe it'll fix
it?

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Dario Andres <andresbajotierra@gmail.com>wrote:

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221478
>
>
> Dario Andres <andresbajotierra@gmail.com> changed:
>
>           What    |Removed                     |Added
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             Status|NEEDSINFO                   |UNCONFIRMED
>                 CC|                            |kdelibs-bugs@kde.org
>          Component|general                     |kcm_notify
>         Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO              |
>         AssignedTo|sourtooth+ssbugs@gmail.com<sourtooth%2Bssbugs@gmail.com> |
> ogoffart@kde.org
>            Summary|System notifications option |"KDE System Notifications"
>                   |missing                     |entry is missing in the
>                   |                            |"Event Source" combobox in
>                   |                            |the KNotifyKCM, even when
>                   |                            |the notifyrc file is
>                   |                            |present
>
>
>
>
> --- Comment #19 from Dario Andres <andresbajotierra gmail com>  2010-01-07
> 00:04:07 ---
> Reopening
>
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Comment 21 Dario Andres 2010-01-17 16:54:39 UTC

The reporter confirmed this is fixed in KDE SC 4.4RC1