Bug 200684

Summary:	KMail shortcuts violate KDE's HIG
Product:	[Unmaintained] kmail	Reporter:	markuss <kamikazow>
Component:	keys and menus	Assignee:	kdepim bugs <pim-bugs-null>
Status:	RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Severity:	wishlist	CC:	bluedzins, christophe
Priority:	NOR
Version First Reported In:	unspecified
Target Milestone:	---
Platform:	openSUSE
OS:	Linux
Latest Commit:		Version Fixed/Implemented In:
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Description markuss 2009-07-18 17:53:06 UTC

Version:            (using KDE 4.2.96)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    SuSE RPMs

I while ago we discussed on kde-usability how to handle shortcuts.
While we didn't come to a conclusion in every detail, some agreements were made and existing rules were clarified.
For the full discussion see http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-usability&m=123151304012623&w=2

We came to the conclusion that Ctrl-Q should always quit an app, no matter which window is active. However, Ctrl-Q does not work when a mail composing window is open and active.

Comment 1 Christophe Marin 2009-07-18 18:43:21 UTC

You forgot a point in your analysis: the composer window doesn't need KMail to be running (eg: you can click on a mailto: link, only the composer will start).

You're also able to: 
- start KMail,
- Click on the "New Message" button
- Quit KMail.

The composer window will still be there.

I don't see any valid reason for quitting KMail when hitting ctrl-Q since the application that launches the composer can be anything.

Note that ctrl-Q is not assigned in the composer window. Only ctrl-W will close it.

Comment 2 markuss 2009-07-18 19:19:45 UTC

Well, the consensus on kde-usabilty was that Ctrl-Q should always quit the application. Hence, not even assigning Ctrl-Q is a HIG violation.
You may discuss further details with Celeste Lyn Paul or join the usability mailing list. I'm just passing the results to Bugzilla (even though a half year late -- sorry for that).

Comment 3 Christophe Marin 2009-07-20 20:56:34 UTC

(In reply to comment #2)
> You may discuss further details with Celeste Lyn Paul or join the usability
> mailing list. I'm just passing the results to Bugzilla (even though a half year late -- sorry for that).

the other way around, Celeste may come and discuss about this topic on the kde-pim mailing list.

I'll close this report since bugzilla is not the better place to discuss about such topics.