Bug 173699

Summary: Tab marker is a character used in French
Product: [Applications] kate Reporter: Jean-Philippe Fleury <contact>
Component: generalAssignee: KWrite Developers <kwrite-bugs-null>
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL    
Severity: wishlist    
Priority: NOR    
Version: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: Ubuntu   
OS: Unspecified   
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Attachments: Tab marker and real double arrow
other ideas of how to represent a tab
All the propositions hitherto

Description Jean-Philippe Fleury 2008-10-27 20:21:54 UTC
Version:            (using KDE 4.1.2)
Installed from:    Ubuntu Packages

Tab marker is a double arrow, but in French a double arrow is used to quote, so it's very confusing because there's no difference between a tab marker and a real double arrow character in beginning of a line. Example:

»	tab marker
» real character in the text

Tab marker would not be a character often used in text writing.
Comment 1 Dominik Haumann 2008-10-28 16:56:08 UTC
the color is different. do you think a "|->" would be better instead of ">>" ?
Comment 2 Jean-Philippe Fleury 2008-10-28 17:05:24 UTC
The color is different but the difference is very subtle (black and gray) when it affects just 1 or 2 characters.

What do you mean by "|->"? Can you put real characters or a screen shot?
Comment 3 Jean-Philippe Fleury 2008-10-28 17:12:53 UTC
Created attachment 28209 [details]
Tab marker and real double arrow

The first line of the screen shot is a tab marker. The second line is a real double arrow. It's very confusing.
Comment 4 Dominik Haumann 2008-10-28 17:40:19 UTC
You can change the color. Settings > Configure Kate > Fonts & Colors, then Tab and Space markers.

Attached some other ideas of how to represent a tab. Ideas are of course welcome.
Comment 5 Dominik Haumann 2008-10-28 17:41:07 UTC
Created attachment 28210 [details]
other ideas of how to represent a tab
Comment 6 Dominik Haumann 2008-10-28 17:43:03 UTC
Also note: you can disable the visualization: Editing > [ ] Highlight Tabulators
Comment 7 Jean-Philippe Fleury 2008-10-28 20:46:56 UTC
Yes, I can disable the visualization but it's very useful. I want to keep it.

I took back your propositions and I added some. See the attached image.

What about the line 4? It's a symbol often used in keyboards to represent tab in the key. And what about the line 5? It seems to me that it was the way to represent tabs in KDE3. Besides, why has it changed?

About the line 2, I'm not sure because it's a character that can be found relatively often in a text. Personally, I would prefer a less used character.
Comment 8 Jean-Philippe Fleury 2008-10-28 20:49:04 UTC
Created attachment 28212 [details]
All the propositions hitherto
Comment 9 Jean-Philippe Fleury 2008-11-20 04:04:18 UTC
I write here all the propositions:

» (00BB) right-pointing double angle quotation mark
→ (2192) rightwards arrow
↦ (21A6) rightwards arrow from bar
⇥ (21E5) rightwards arrow to bar
⌞ (231E) bottom left corner
Comment 10 Dominik Haumann 2008-11-20 10:13:24 UTC
Ok, we cannot use the utf8 characters though, as not all fonts provide them. So we have to draw them ourselves. The last item has only 2 lines, ie it's the fastest to draw.

Is there any preference which character we should draw now?
Comment 11 Jean-Philippe Fleury 2008-11-20 17:50:22 UTC
Personally, it would be one of the two last:

⇥ (21E5) because it's very similar to the symbol in the tab key in most of keyboards.

⌞ (231E) because it's unobtrusive and similar to the tab symbol used in KDE3.
Comment 12 Christoph Cullmann 2015-10-08 09:04:24 UTC
Dear user,

this wish list item is now closed, as it wasn't touched in the last two years and no contributor stepped up to implement it.

The Kate/KTextEditor team is very small and we can just try to keep up with fixing bugs. Therefore wishs that show no activity for two years or more will be closed from now on to keep at least a bit overview about 'current' wishs of the users.

If you want your feature to be implemented, please step up to provide some patch for it. If you think it is really needed, you can reopen your request, but keep in mind, if no new good arguments are made and no people get attracted to help out to implement it, it will expire in two years again.

We have a nice website kate-editor.org that provides all the information needed to contribute, please make use of it. For highlighting improvements our user manual shows how to write syntax definition files.

Greetings
Christoph