Version: 0.9.0 (using KDE KDE 3.3.0) Installed from: Compiled From Sources Compiler: gcc 3.3.4 OS: Linux I would love it if kopete could have a choice of logging in plaintext as gaim does instead of xml. I will quite often ssh into my machine to look for a phone number or ip address I have been IMd or perhaps even conversations about projects I have had with customers and the current format is not very friendly to being read using less. I appreciate many people like the history browser and xml format, but I am sure both options could be made availible, with the xml as the default?
Why don't you just convert it to the format you prefer? I think this would be a much cleaner solution. XML is the way to go, you can convert it to everything.
I would prefer not to have to run a conversion script or use a special history browser every single time I log a new conversation.
Actually xml proved to suck in kopete. I bet anything would be faster in kopete than the current history plugin with xml and the chatwnindow with xsl parsing.
The slowness is 100% because of the history plugin and QDom. It has nothing at all to do with the chat window and XSL. This can easily be shown through profiling.. or even just disabling the history.
Ideally we could do exactly what Kopete does, applying the included stylesheets to the XML files to view them as HTML, but the stylesheets don't provide a valid DTD. I guess the Kopete code works around this somehow? (I don't know much about XML, maybe it's already possible to work around this with a certain command-line option to xsltproc.) It would be nice to get this fixed. Alternatively, it should be a very simple matter (unless the Kopete plug-in system is broken) to save the logs in HTML format as a seperate option. In any case, it's clear that a lot of people would like to be able to view Kopete logs outside of Kopete, and the current format really is not very good for this purpose...
You don't need a DTD to view XML files transformed with a stylesheet in a browser supporting such things (ie, Mozilla, not Konqeuror yet). All you need to do is add an XSL processing instruction att he top of the page, right after the XML processing instruction. Eg: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?> <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="/home/foo/style.xslt"?> However - you can't use this trick and the Kopete stylesheets to view the history files, because they are actually slightly different formats. Stefan had a patch that made them the same format, and allowed selecting different styles in the history viewer, but it was never applied and now it is too late for this in 3.4 I think. Maybe what should be done, is for the history plugin to stick with the same format, and just insert a processing instruction as above pointing at a stylesheet they pick from a dropdown in the config(default to Kopete style). Then: a) You have XML logs b) You can open them in Firefox (and Konq in the future) and view them as pretty HTML c) If you want to change the style you can easily
Thank you for that useful bit of information :-) If Konqueror in the not too distant future is able to apply stylesheets to XML files, then I think keeping the files in XML but providing stylesheets to view them nicely is a good solution. The most important thing is simply that we can view them properly outside of Kopete...
yeah... the historyplugin is real crap :< (saves not immediatly after a message arrived etc) as is view my logs often in a terminal, too, i did a very simple logviewer in php... you need php5 and the simplexml-module.. -> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/F3M5P159.html
> yeah... the historyplugin is real crap :< > (saves not immediatly after a message arrived etc) If it's so much crap, either help us out and make it better, or file wishlists for things you want (and either convince a current developer to implement them or find somebody else willing to do your stuff), or just shut up and quit criticizing the work we do in our _free_ _time_. The more I hear people spout crap like this, the more I feel like my time is better spent just watching TV than trying to make you unappreciative people happy.
Kopete History format is being working on in the mailing lists.
Dear user, unfortunately Kopete is no longer maintained. Please migrate to another solution, e.g. for Jabber a possibility is Kaidan, for Matrix a candidate is NeoChat.