Version: (using KDE KDE 3.2.1) Installed from: Debian testing/unstable Packages All Offline contacts from gadu-gadu are shown as Gadu Offline, but at the same time as Kopete's Away (with away icon). I think that Gadu offline should be offline for Kopete (strange?) :) Maybe it has its own reasons, but I think that in kdenetwork/kopete/protocols/gadu/gaduprotocol.cpp lines 52, 53 gaduStatusOfflineDescr_( KopeteOnlineStatus::Away, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, this, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, "gg_offline_d", i18n( "Go A&way" ), i18n( "Offline" ) ), should be changed to gaduStatusOfflineDescr_( KopeteOnlineStatus::Offline, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, this, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, "gg_offline_d", i18n( "Go O&ffline" ), i18n( "Offline" ) ), I'm waiting for your opinion. :)
Browse the list, and you'll find out why. But I can tell you now, I want offline contacts _with_ description set to be seen on the list, because I find that description somehow important even if someone is offline (like 'just pop-out for to pub', 'I'm about to kill me self'). This code is correct, I can say, by design, since kopete doesn't give me an option to decide whether I want this paticular status to be shown on the list when 'show offline' is ticked off , or not. That's why icon is offline, but with color, and with little 'i'. This bug report is invalid therefor, and I will 'fix' it as soon as kopete will alow me to set property of status. For now, I need to depend on that little trick.
OK - it is a reason. So the best solution is to add an option to show all persons with description to Kopete. But now when I select an option not to show offline contacts I can see those offline contacts. I think that it is a bug, because ALL users expect that they don't see any offline contact while they select not to see them. Second thing is that Kopete displays Away icon and Away description with is a lie. My option would be to show offline with description as offline, but before those without description. Then offline IS offline, and it's easy to check if someone have something to say about his offline status. I think that there should be usefull "weight" parameter to KopeteOnlineStatus constructor.
> But now when I select an option not to show offline contacts I can see > those offline contacts. I think that it is a bug, because ALL users expect > that they don't see any offline contact while they select not to see them. Dude, gadu is not the only plugin up there. There will be no such option, forget about it. Most plugins (jabber, AIM, ICQ, ...) can have so called now awayMessage, but those functions are not implemented at all or not properly. > Second thing is that Kopete displays Away icon and Away description with is > a lie. This is not AWAY icon, look at it properly. Because I cannot see away icon there, don't suggest with that snip of code. > My option would be to show offline with description as offline, but before > those without description. Then offline IS offline, and it's easy to check > if someone have something to say about his offline status. But I decided to leave those with description even when user decided to remove offline contacts. Description can be important. > I think that there should be usefull "weight" parameter to > KopeteOnlineStatus constructor. there is weight already, usefull would be property to say whether we want or not to see contacts with awayMessage. I'll close this bug as invalid. I had this discussion at least once in past, and I won't change that. You can patch your own copy if you dislike it for now.
Maybe even work for some will be better, anyway this ain't a bug for me. Please don't comment on this bug anymore.
we'll im my opinion it offline should be offline in kopete - but Grzegorz's "my playground - my toys" point of view will have us have offline contacts even with "display only online" button checked. this is not a bug - it's just uncomfortable and it makes me have kopete for ym, aim and icq and kadu for gg
There isn't any other IM app which shows offline contacts as away. And i think it is a bug because the icon is wrong, should be offline with description not away - I CAN see it very well. And the sorting is not logic - should be online/away | offline with desc | offline not online/away/offline with desc | offline.
You can always vote for wish 88381 I created. It should satisfy Grzegorz's and my point of view.
well, the thing is. I have over 80 contacts on me list. while 70% of em is mostly offline, some 20% of those offline have some kind of desc. I want to see it. Please bug kopete core developers to add that kinda feature, as most all other protocols do support descs with offline status as well. My point is based on usability, not some dry rules.
Currently (kopete included in kde 3.5.0) shows those offline contacts even when 'Show Offline Users' is disabled, which means that the program does not do what the user wishes. I definately do NOT want to see offline contacts, doesn't matter if they set a description or not.
please read the bugs archive, before reporting something AGAIN... and AGAIN.....
read the thread again... :( gadu has no separate option for that. Patches are welcomed. You see, I like to see contacts that are offline but have some sort of desc. Because there's over 100 contacts on my contacts list. And I have no desire to sieve them all with me eye.
but Your are the only one wanting it - and it doesn't match kopete's button description and convention
coincidentally I am the only one writing it also. -- GJ "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called Research, would it?" - AE
So seems the only reasonable option is to use jabber transport for gadu gadu contacts, since the plugin developer wishes to NOT fix the obvious bug in his plugin. What is the use of such plugin, if user settings (do NOT show offline) does not work? Offline contacts are shown regardless of this setting.
thats='s what i started to do recently - and all my familit using kopete as well PS. good job in loosing users
add option for that matter. Atm I am unable to work on KDE, because my laptop is being repaired till 8th of Febuary. So please send a patch, and stop whining and threating me. Let's face it, jabber transports are limited in functionality. All of my users are either commited to use kopete, or kadu haters. All others constist of whiners, in two categories: "when kopete will have all kadu has, I'll switch", "I rather use transport because I don't like X in kopete-gadu".
beause I can't do it now, and test it, Duncan is going to "fix" it for you bloody whiners. It is going to be reverted to config option as soon as I get my development env back.
SVN commit 500909 by dmacvicar: Fix semantics. Offline users should not be shown when show offline users is off. To have this kind of special offline+message status, we would need to make the semantics at Kopete level. BUG:77086 M +1 -1 gaduprotocol.cpp --- branches/work/kopete/dev-0.12/kopete/protocols/gadu/gaduprotocol.cpp #500908:500909 @@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ "gg_ignored", i18n( "Blocked" ) ), gaduStatusOffline_( Kopete::OnlineStatus::Offline, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL, this, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL, "gg_offline", i18n( "Offline" ) , i18n( "O&ffline" ) , Kopete::OnlineStatusManager::Offline ), - gaduStatusOfflineDescr_( Kopete::OnlineStatus::Away, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, this, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, + gaduStatusOfflineDescr_( Kopete::OnlineStatus::Offline, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, this, GG_STATUS_NOT_AVAIL_DESCR, QStringList::split( '|', "contact_away_overlay|gg_description_overlay" ), i18n( "Offline" ), i18n( "A&way" ) , Kopete::OnlineStatusManager::Offline ), gaduStatusBusy_(Kopete::OnlineStatus::Away, GG_STATUS_BUSY, this, GG_STATUS_BUSY, "contact_away_overlay", i18n( "Busy" ) , i18n( "B&usy" ) , Kopete::OnlineStatusManager::Busy ),
Should be default...
I am using Kopete 0.11 on my Gentoo with kde 3.5 and i see that the problem hasn't been yet solved. The contacts that are away with description are displayed exactly the same as conntacts that are offline with description. The funniest thing is (because i thought that it was only a bug) that during reemerging of Kopete 0.11, the icons of persons that were offline have been correct shownig a Gadu-Gadu sun with the two "zz", which are shown normally when the contact is offline, but only when the emerge completed, everything returned to its previous state. Why is that?? And most important when will this problem be fixed ??
problem IS fixed in 0.12 version. -- Grzegorz Jaskiewicz "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - A. Lincoln
That's great, but how can i have kopete 0.12 without the problem of compiling it from source?? It is not available in portage. As i have written i'm using kde 3.5. To have it on my gentoo i had to use masked packages, with which came Kopete 0.11. I've tried to compile 0.12 from source, but i'm not such a advanced linux user and when the compilation was aborted because of errors i could not fix it. This below is the exact error i get. I know that i'm missing something in my kde, but like i said, I'm not so advanced... yet. "checking for kde-config... not found configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found! Please check whether you installed KDE correctly."