Bug 73880 - flash banners block mouse wheel page scrolling
Summary: flash banners block mouse wheel page scrolling
Status: RESOLVED UPSTREAM
Alias: None
Product: konqueror
Classification: Applications
Component: nspluginviewer (show other bugs)
Version: 4.5.4
Platform: Compiled Sources Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konqueror Developers
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Reported: 2004-01-31 13:42 UTC by Dik Takken
Modified: 2021-04-20 09:58 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Description Dik Takken 2004-01-31 13:42:55 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.2.0)
Installed from:    Compiled From Sources
OS:          Linux

When using the scrollwheel on a website, and the mousepointer hits a flash banner, the banner steals the scrolling events. You can't scroll the page anymore unless you move the mousepointer away from the banner.

Last time I looked they had such a banner on

http://www.partyblick.de/

I didn't know if I should reopen Bug 45180 or file a new one. Hope I did the right thing. :)
Comment 1 George Staikos 2004-01-31 17:35:18 UTC
Subject: Re:  New: flash banners block mouse wheel page scrolling

On Saturday 31 January 2004 07:42, Dik Takken wrote:
> When using the scrollwheel on a website, and the mousepointer hits a flash
> banner, the banner steals the scrolling events. You can't scroll the page
> anymore unless you move the mousepointer away from the banner.
>
> Last time I looked they had such a banner on
>
> http://www.partyblick.de/
>
> I didn't know if I should reopen Bug 45180 or file a new one. Hope I did
> the right thing. :) _______________________________________________

  Don't think we have any choice about this.  Perhaps the best that can be 
done is to grab the mouse events with XEmbed and feed them up to the parent 
part?  Then we disable scroll wheel for plugins that use it though...  I 
think this is WONTFIX, IMHO.

Comment 2 Mathieu Jobin 2004-05-29 02:02:02 UTC
I agree, one of the best feature I love about KDE, is the scroll follow mouse.
flash anim are like any widget or html control...

WONTFIX, IMHO

Comment 3 Dik Takken 2004-05-29 14:05:13 UTC
Is there no way to detect that a plugin is flash? I have not seen a flash object processing scroll events yet, so these events could just be fed to the parent widget, but only for flash objects.

One more thing: What if the whole site is flash and it does not fit in the window? In that case, you currently can't scroll down the page unless you use the scrollbar, right?
Comment 4 Mathieu Jobin 2004-06-23 03:20:30 UTC
yeah,... its annoying,... flash can't hardly have subitems scrollable...
I saw one before but.... konq should scroll the page on flash animation.

Comment 5 Mathieu Jobin 2004-06-28 23:02:47 UTC
same in firefox....
just for you to know, wheel-scrolling block on a flash picture in firefox as well.

Comment 6 Leo Savernik 2004-07-29 16:47:54 UTC
Can't we steal the wheel events in an event filter before XEmbed gets them. Or does XEmbed ignore event filters?

Btw, confirming. The current behaviour is hellishly annoying, given that most flashs are only banner ads. Just like Dik, I have yet to see a flash that makes use of the wheel.
Comment 7 Stephan Kulow 2004-11-19 16:10:53 UTC
I see it as a wish though. If someone feels like...
Comment 8 Krystof Zacek 2004-11-24 13:27:10 UTC
Under Windows both IE and Mozilla Firefox can scroll over flash both with mouse and keyboard and that is how it should be.
I believe Konqueror programmers can handle this too. The current misbehaviour should IMO be considered as a bug.

Regards
Krystof
Comment 9 Frank Aune 2005-05-19 16:54:01 UTC
I agree, this should be fixed. Try going to www.vg.no and scrolling down that page with the mousewheel. Very annoying. While I agree that its an excellent idea that the scroll follows the mouse in widgets, this should not be the case for flash animations.
Comment 10 Robert Knight 2005-12-05 20:36:07 UTC
I'd like to vote for this annoyance as well - latest FireFox allows mousewheel scrolling even when the page is over a flash ad.

This problem extends to other areas as well.  For example, page scrolling is always blocked if the mouse is over a textbox or listbox that has the focus.  I think a more intelligent behaviour would be to only block page scrolling and if the contents of the textbox or listbox are scrollable (ie. there are more lines of text than visible rows in a textbox or more items than visible in a listbox) 
Comment 11 Juuso Alasuutari 2006-04-02 13:20:19 UTC
This bug has my vote, too.
Comment 12 Peter Lewis 2008-11-07 11:25:54 UTC
I agree... this is rather annoying. Any progress / decisions? It's been a while...   :-)
Comment 13 Samuel Brack 2010-12-29 15:44:27 UTC
This behaviour can be confirmed in 4.5.4, it's still not fixed.
Comment 14 Kai Uwe Broulik 2010-12-29 16:01:57 UTC
It‘s also still in 4.6  ;) But I think this is more a bug of Flash than KDE itself, isn‘t it? Dunno. Flash should be banned. HTML 5 rocks :)
Comment 15 Jonathan Marten 2021-04-20 09:58:06 UTC
Flash and Netscape plugins are no longer supported.