Bug 65674 - user user's name instead of user's username
Summary: user user's name instead of user's username
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: kde
Classification: I don't know
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Gentoo Packages Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unassigned bugs mailing-list
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Reported: 2003-10-07 22:50 UTC by Pupeno
Modified: 2018-03-28 17:19 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Using real life user data in more places, not only account id (29.87 KB, image/jpeg)
2008-03-09 17:41 UTC, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
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Description Pupeno 2003-10-07 22:50:41 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.1.4)
Installed from:    Gentoo Packages
Compiler:          gcc version 3.2.3 20030422 (Gentoo Linux 1.4 3.2.3-r1, propolice) 
OS:          Linux

This is not kdm specific, but kdm is one of the biggest application to what it applies for, other parts of kde should be modified at well.
What I think is that KDE, instead of using the user's username (my case, for example "pupeno") should use the user's username (my case, for example "Jos
Comment 1 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau 2003-10-07 23:23:38 UTC
Another nice place would be the file properties dialog... + using a user's picture. 
 
With KUser this should all not be that difficult today... What's that, a "patch"? ;) 
 
Friedrich 
Comment 2 Oswald Buddenhagen 2003-10-07 23:37:50 UTC
quite honestly, i don't like that idea. 
it's fine to have the realname displayed _along_ with the username in some 
prominent places (kdm's user list, logout dialog, the menu entries that lead to the 
logout dialog), but completely replacing the concept of usernames with realnames is 
just stupid. and my brain explodes if i only think about friedrich's picture idea. ;) 
 
as far as i like it, it is already implemented in kdm; the rest is WONTFIX as far as i'm 
concerned. you can reassign to 'kde' if you seriously want to keep up that idea, but 
i tell you that once you start, you have _a lot_ of work until you get something 
consistent again. also note, that you should not leave command line users in the 
cold, so the usernames must be still somehow available everywhere. 
 
Comment 3 Pupeno 2003-10-08 02:16:16 UTC
I don't know about kdm in HEAD, but I think it should offer some options like 
this: 
a) show username list and user/pass fields. 
b) show user's name + username list and users/pass. 
c) show user's name list and pass field. 
The last one being the most weird I think it would make much sense for 
desktop-only where there are less than 10 users (any common family which owns a 
computar) and name repetition is not likely to happen... Maybe kdm may catch 
the name repetition and in that cases show the username. 
I said totally removing the username concept for the user as a very utopic long 
term idea. 
I think [a] and [b] are already implemented in kdm, am I wrong ? 
Would it be too hard to implement [c] (I think some desktop distributors will 
thank it, maybe we should ask them). 
About Logout "username" and the log out dialog, I don't see why the username is 
really needed, the name should be enough. 
Thanks 
 
PS: Is it posible to copy this request to KDE without removing it from KDM till 
it's close here ? 
Comment 4 Oswald Buddenhagen 2004-03-16 17:42:00 UTC
getting rid of it ...
Comment 5 FiNeX 2008-03-08 15:24:02 UTC
Actually KDM allow to show a users list (with their pictures). So the problem about "remembering" the username is solved.
Comment 6 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau 2008-03-08 18:32:48 UTC
Hi FiNeX, could you please get a real name? I cannot even guess one from your homepage :)

Then, I think your reasoning misses the point of the bug report, so marking it as "Resolved" should be reverted IMHO. The point was that using that cryptic account name "user123" in the UI is not so nice as using the full, real name. For some people at least. That has nothing to do with remembering. (Besides, concerning your reasoning: what do you do if you just know the name but not the face?)

So please, reopen this report. Or give it another resolution, like REMIND. But FIXED is plain wrong.
Comment 7 FiNeX 2008-03-09 13:47:44 UTC
Il 8/3/2008 alle 18:32, ha scritto:
> ------- Additional Comments From kossebau kde org  2008-03-08 18:32 -------
> Hi FiNeX, could you please get a real name? I cannot even guess one from
> your homepage :)


Hi Friedrich! My real name is Leonardo :-)
I'm not used to write it on the web because even my friends in the real life 
call me "FiNeX" (or, if them want to be quick, "Fino").

:-)

goodbye :-)
Comment 8 FiNeX 2008-03-09 13:48:11 UTC
Ok Friedrich, I've re-read better the report.

On kdm there is already the full login name displayed. On the others apps, well... I don't see the problem, nowadays users should be used to have a username.

Anyway I'll reopen the bug although I'm not sure it will be done.
Comment 9 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau 2008-03-09 17:41:12 UTC
Created attachment 23839 [details]
Using real life user data in more places, not only account id
Comment 10 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau 2008-03-09 17:53:08 UTC
Thanks, Leonardo/Fino, this week's No.1 bug killer :)

The problem is that it's not too nice to be only assigned by some abstract account name. See the attachment I uploaded right now, result of some patches I played around with a few years ago (some other patches even turned groups into some less abstract and closer to real life data).

Power users may be able to easily cope with just the account names, for others the mapping to the real life human beings is more difficult. So I think. Just compare Kopete, where you also get the real name displayed if available, not the account id.
Comment 11 FiNeX 2008-03-09 18:09:27 UTC
Il 9/3/2008 alle 17:53, ha scritto:
> The problem is that it's not too nice to be only assigned by some abstract
> account name. See the attachment I uploaded right now, result of some
> patches I played around with a few years ago (some other patches even
> turned groups into some less abstract and closer to real life data).
>
> Power users may be able to easily cope with just the account names, for
> others the mapping to the real life human beings is more difficult. So I
> think. Just compare Kopete, where you also get the real name displayed if
> available, not the account id.


Ok, the first step should be the creation of a list of all the kde software 
which display the username/real name.
After doing that we could think if (and where) it is possible and useful to 
display the real name.
Comment 12 Alexander Mentyu 2018-03-28 17:19:20 UTC
Currently real name is displayed in SDDM and in Lock Screen

Plasma: 5.12.3
Apps: 17.12.3
Frameworks: 5.44.0
Qt: 5.10.1
Kernel: 4.14.27-1-MANJARO
OS: Netrunner Rolling