Version: 4.0 (using KDE 3.1.0) Installed from: Mandrake Linux Cooker i586 - Cooker Compiler: gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk) OS: Linux (i686) release 2.4.21-0.13mdk Tabs should have Control+T as a shortcut by default, just like in mozilla and galeon. It is not only consistent, but easier to remember. The new tabs button in the menu, should be enabled by default, else you have to browse to a site, only then you will see the new tab menu. Which is not only a waste of productivity, but also irritating, since you can't start browsing in two tabs at once.
I don't understand. Ctrl+T as a shortcut for what action? Create new tab? Besides, that action is already available when Konqueror is started. I can open two tabs or more without going anywhere (using KDE CVS)
This is from Mozilla fame and I think very useful.
Yes. Ctrl+T as a shortcut for Creating new tabs. This is consistent with both Mozilla & Galeon. I would also suggest that the "create new tab" should come uder the location menu, since no newbie would find it under the window menu. Thank you.
I am already kind of used to Ctrl+Shift+N. I know Ctrl+N creates new window and Ctrl+D duplicates; for me it's natural to do the same but with tabs with Ctrl+Shift+N and Ctrl+Shift+D... Anyways, the menu options is already in the Location menu.
I understand your concern. But I am speaking for newbies, since Ctrl+T is simple,easy to remember & used in most browsers. Maybe Ctrl+shift+N could be anyway changed by experienced users. This is atleast, My opinion.
*** Bug 70687 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
You can change the shortcut to suit your needs. It's fully configurable. You are, however, asking that we change the default. I can't answer that for you, except that Konqueror has to be consistent with Konqueror and other KDE programs (in less polite words, "I couldn't care less what the shortcuts are in Mozilla"). Other KDE applications with tabs: Konsole: shortcuts are Ctrl+Alt+N and Ctrl+Shift+N (what other applications use tabs?) If you want to change the default, I recommend posting to kfm-devel and kde-usability and convincing them why Ctrl+T is better than Ctrl+Shift+N.
I support this bug. Why not make Ctrl+T the global shortcut for opening new tabs, and Ctrl+Shift+N the secondary shortcut (so that the old users can keep their habits)? This would not be the first time Mozilla shortcuts have been reused for konqueror: Ctrl+U for "view document source" [1], and Ctrl+I for "page information" [2]. Konsole is a very bad example for consistency because nearly all Ctrl+<key> actions are reserved for terminal-specific stuff (think Ctrl+C, which interrupts, but does not paste). So konsole is a prime example of non-consistency (which is *good* because konsole is a very special app fulfilling special needs for special kinds of users). References: [1] http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/kdelibs/khtml/khtml_part.cpp.diff?r1=1.906&r2=1.907&f=h [2] "Add other shortcut for 'View Document Information' as in Mozilla", http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/kdelibs/khtml/khtml_part.cpp.diff?r1=1.907&r2=1.908&f=h
The shortcuts in konsole and konqueror should be consistent (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53855) so why don't change them to something like Strg+Alt+T (for tab) Strg+Alt+R (Remove) and so on, would be kinda logical :)
Because you can't reach Ctrl+Alt+T with one hand without severe wrenches. Shortcuts have to be the more convenient the more frequently its associated action is to be executed. And opening a new tab is undoubtedly a *very* frequent action. As I already mentioned, konsole cannot have Ctrl+T because all Ctrl+<key> combinations are reserved for the terminal.
Created attachment 4785 [details] Adds CTRL+T as alternative shortcut for new tab and replaces CTRL+T with F10 for opening a terminal
Applied the proposed patch after discussion (or absense of it) in kfm-devel.
thank you simon.
The problem is that F10 is already used for New Folder in konqueror. That happens to be a shortcut i use a LOT. Now i find myself hitting F10 and opening a new tab when i wanted a new folder. Atleast change the new folder shortcut to something other than F10. I noticed this last week but only knew the source of the change when i read this weeks CVS digest.
Forget it, i see now that the open terminal shortcut has been changed to F4. Thanks.
CVS commit by savernik: Backport: Add Ctrl+T as alternative shortcut for opening a new tab, and make F4 open konsole. CCMAIL: 59794@bugs.kde.org M +2 -2 konq_mainwindow.cc 1.1274.2.13 --- kdebase/konqueror/konq_mainwindow.cc #1.1274.2.12:1.1274.2.13 @@ -3185,5 +3185,5 @@ void KonqMainWindow::initActions() if (kapp->authorize("shell_access")) { - (void) new KAction( i18n( "Open &Terminal" ), "openterm", CTRL+Key_T, this, SLOT( slotOpenTerminal() ), actionCollection(), "open_terminal" ); + (void) new KAction( i18n( "Open &Terminal" ), "openterm", Key_F4, this, SLOT( slotOpenTerminal() ), actionCollection(), "open_terminal" ); } (void) new KAction( i18n( "&Open Location..." ), "fileopen", KStdAccel::shortcut(KStdAccel::Open), this, SLOT( slotOpenLocation() ), actionCollection(), "open_location" ); @@ -3244,5 +3244,5 @@ void KonqMainWindow::initActions() m_paSplitViewHor = new KAction( i18n( "Split View &Left/Right" ), "view_left_right", CTRL+SHIFT+Key_L, this, SLOT( slotSplitViewHorizontal() ), actionCollection(), "splitviewh" ); m_paSplitViewVer = new KAction( i18n( "Split View &Top/Bottom" ), "view_top_bottom", CTRL+SHIFT+Key_T, this, SLOT( slotSplitViewVertical() ), actionCollection(), "splitviewv" ); - m_paAddTab = new KAction( i18n( "&New Tab" ), "tab_new", CTRL+SHIFT+Key_N, this, SLOT( slotAddTab() ), actionCollection(), "newtab" ); + m_paAddTab = new KAction( i18n( "&New Tab" ), "tab_new", "CTRL+SHIFT+N;CTRL+T", this, SLOT( slotAddTab() ), actionCollection(), "newtab" ); m_paDuplicateTab = new KAction( i18n( "&Duplicate Current Tab" ), "tab_duplicate", CTRL+SHIFT+Key_D, this, SLOT( slotDuplicateTab() ), actionCollection(), "duplicatecurrenttab" ); m_paBreakOffTab = new KAction( i18n( "Detach Current Tab" ), "tab_breakoff", CTRL+SHIFT+Key_B, this, SLOT( slotBreakOffTab() ), actionCollection(), "breakoffcurrenttab" );
You guys are so great! I just wanted to program it on my own!!!