Version: 0.6.1a (using KDE 3.1.1) Installed from: SuSE Compiler: gcc version 3.2 OS: Linux (i686) release 2.4.19-4GB It would be more great, if the contact list could be made transparent, since this window stays in the view for the longest time. In contrast I see no use for a transparent chat window.
Transparancy is just for eye candy... there is no such thing as true transparancy in X yet, it is all pseudo-transparancy, ie the background is not updated live, you only see the desktop wallpaper. As such I think you are over-estimating the utility of having a transparant contact list "because the window is always showing", if we make this transparant it isn't going to let you see other windows behind it or your desktop icons or anything, this seems to be what you expected.
Of course a real transparency would be the ultimate goal. No, I was exactly thinking of the pseudo transparency, like it is used for Konsole or the Kopete Chat Window. Since the contact list will remain most of the time in the background anyway, it's ok to only have the background transparent. In my opinion this pseudo transparency is more worth to be in the contact list, than in the chat window. Well, this is just an eyecandy and nothing that should be high on the prio list, of course.
Although it would be a matter of personal use, I must admit I find it very odd that you feel the contact list is of higher priority than the chat window. Most people have the contact list hidden most of the time, whereas they are interacting with the chat window constantly.
I would also like to have pseudo-transparency on chat window's input area.
Subject: Re: Transparent contakt list window I also vote for pseudo-trasparency on the chat windows input. Mainly because I have the chat set to pseudo-transparent, and use a rather hard to read color on white ;) As for the contact list I realy could care less.. Ok so it would be cool, but then you also need to be able to change the contact list text color, as opposed to using the default kde colors. Which *may* not be good. Thanks for listening
> I also vote for pseudo-trasparency on the chat windows input This "bug" is the result of the rich-text editor, and varies from protocol to protocol. On some protocols, you will indeed get a transparent input area. On others, the background color is by default set to white for you and so white is what you see. How else would you propose that you could tell what background color you happened to be using for your message? However, the user list in the chatwindow ought to be transparent too.
Subject: Re: [Kopete-devel] Transparent contakt list window >This "bug" is the result of the rich-text editor, and varies from protocol to protocol. On some protocols, you will indeed get a transparent input area. On others, the background color is by default set to white for you and so white is what you see. How else would you propose that you could tell what background color you happened to be using for your message? > > > Er, I don't have a clue what your talking about here. there is no code at all, and never was, to make the input widget transparent. If for some reason it is sometimes becoming transparent on your system you've got serious XServer problems.
Subject: Re: [Kopete-devel] Transparency extended to cover more areas Jason Keirstead (Sun, December 14 2003 10:50) > there is no code at all, and never was, to make the input > widget transparent. If for some reason it is sometimes becoming > transparent on your system you've got serious XServer problems. Oops, I misstated myself...sorry. I don't use transparency normally, and honestly think it's a silly useless feature :-P. So my memory was a bit fogged. But what I meant to talk about were the messages themselves. Some protocols show messages with a white background in the chatwindow, others with transparent. The fact that one can set the background color makes transparency even more ugly and useless than normal since there will just be colored bars going across it. Changing the subject a bit, can't we just remove it? Probably not I suppose.
Subject: Re: [Kopete-devel] Transparency extended to cover more areas >But what I meant to talk about were the messages themselves. Some protocols >show messages with a white background in the chatwindow, others with >transparent. The fact that one can set the background color makes >transparency even more ugly and useless than normal since there will just be >colored bars going across it. > > That s why there is the "ignore user specified background color" option under transparancy. The current behaviour is not buggy, it's exactly right. It always shows the user sent BG color if there is one. If there isn't one, it just shows the normal BG, which in this case, is transparant. The checkbox is there so you will always have full transparancy if you want. >Changing the subject a bit, can't we just remove it? Probably not I suppose. > > No
Real tranparency is coming very soon... be ready... http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/TranslucentWindows
Yeah, I just hope, that real transparency will come before Hurd or Duke Nukem Forever ;-)
At least in kde 3.2.2 you can have transparent menus, why in the kopete chat window or konsole or whatever, you only get the pseudo-transparent window? My kde is setup to have context menus and the K menu transparent, so I can see the window behind it, not just the wallpaper. Does anybody know why is that?
Actually the menus are also pseudo transparent. It's just that menus are opened for a very short time and therefore it's hardly noticable that they are peudo transparent. Open a console window, run 'find /' in it and open a context menu in that window and you will see that the background of the context menu is static.
Transparency for the user list is great, it sort of makes it a background / desktop widget. True transparency is available now with all the hardware acceleration going on. +votes
Well, although I was one of the submitter of a duplcate defect, today I would rather like to see a fully functional plasma contact list than a transparent contact list.
KWin offers transparency now for all windows (right click on the program icon in the top left and change the opacity setting). It can be made permanent (Advanced => Special Application Settings => Preferences).