Bug 52828 - Wishlist Item Knode Scoring
Summary: Wishlist Item Knode Scoring
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Alias: None
Product: knode
Classification: Miscellaneous
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 0.7.1
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
URL:
Keywords:
: 42862 55496 57701 75768 77191 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2003-01-10 01:08 UTC by Matthias Mees
Modified: 2018-09-04 18:33 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Description Matthias Mees 2003-01-10 01:08:29 UTC
Version:           0.7.1 (using KDE KDE 3.0.4)
Installed from:    SuSE RPMs

There are 3 things in Knode's Scoring - which is already very good - I'd just love to see in future versions: a) a regexp editor like in Kmail (which probably will be there anyway once Knode und Kmail are "merged"?), b) ability to score on any possible header line (currently, it's "only" possibile to score on Subject, From, Date, Message-ID, Lines and References, I'd like to have e.g. X-Newsreader and User-Agent added...) and c) ability to score on the message body, basically giving the opportunity to score on technical mistakes like wrong signature seperator or long attribution line in some way. Probably hard to implement, but that would turn Knode into a fantastic newsreader (being a great one already) ;-)
Comment 1 David Dorward 2003-05-07 16:44:02 UTC
Possible things RegExp on any header could allow:

* Lower the of anything crossposted to more then 5 groups
* Lower the score of anything posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy and any group
with "xp" or "windows" in the name.
* Lower the score of anything posted to a group with a high proportion of trolls
from Google Groups with a Yahoo.com or Hotmail.com email address.
Comment 2 David Dorward 2004-05-11 08:22:31 UTC
Responding to email:

Subject: 	Please review your entries at bugs.kde.org to help us
Date: 	11 May 2004 06:06:40 -0000

Feature still missing from KNode 0.7.7, KDE 3.2.1.

Although I note that "Lower the score of anything posted to a group with a high proportion of trolls from Google Groups with a Yahoo.com or Hotmail.com email address." is possible to achieve with the current interface. (The other use cases I suggested can't)
Comment 3 Volker Krause 2004-07-11 11:59:32 UTC
*** Bug 77191 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Volker Krause 2004-07-11 12:01:45 UTC
*** Bug 57701 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Volker Krause 2004-07-11 12:03:12 UTC
*** Bug 55496 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 6 Volker Krause 2004-08-23 11:11:14 UTC
Unfortunatly this is not as easy as it sounds, when listing available articles the server needs only to send Subject, From, Date, Message-ID, Lines and References headers. If you want scoring on additional headers, that would require to download the whole article (same of course for the "scoring on body" wish) and that is something you surely don't want to have, esp. on slow internet connections.

However, a NNTP server might send optinally additional headers during the article listing, I'll see if we can at least support those.
Comment 7 Volker Krause 2004-08-24 11:01:05 UTC
*** Bug 75768 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Volker Krause 2004-08-24 12:14:24 UTC
*** Bug 42862 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Volker Krause 2004-08-24 12:55:14 UTC
CVS commit by vkrause: 

Add support for the 'LIST OVERVIEW.FMT' NNTP command.

If the server provides more than the mandatory headers during a XOVER command, KNode will now evaluate and save them. So it will be possible to add scoring rules for these headers.

I tested this with a few diffrent servers, all of them provided at least the Xref header, so scoring on cross-posts (as requested multiple times) should be possible.

CCMAIL: 52828@bugs.kde.org


  M +48 -5     kngroup.cpp   1.76
  M +6 -1      kngroup.h   1.32
  M +19 -1     knnntpclient.cpp   1.60



Comment 10 mi+kde 2004-12-21 21:52:50 UTC
Whether it is "filter body" or just headers, I want to be able to filter out all cross-posts. The easiest way to do this is to look for comas in the Newsgroup-headers. This used to work for me with knews (no relation to KDE). Thanks!
Comment 11 Martin Fabian Hohenberg 2004-12-22 20:05:13 UTC
I'd really like to see a feature to score anzthing down that has more than x crossposted groups.
Comment 12 Simon Brooke 2005-06-21 00:05:55 UTC
Noted that distant servers over low bandwidth links don't send all headers when listing. However, many people browse on high bandwidth links or run local news servers (e.g. leafnode). It should at least be made an option to be able to score/filter on all headers and on content, because, for example, cross-posting correlates very highly with trolling.
Comment 13 heikki 2005-08-11 21:28:19 UTC
Feature still missing in KNode 0.9.1 (KDE 3.4.1, Gentoo)

*Want* to sort out crossposted messages, even if that is only possible after downloading the message itself.
Comment 14 Nikolai Försterling 2009-01-15 02:45:19 UTC
Maybe this bug is interesting too:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56510
and maybe even this one:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138910
Comment 15 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-09-04 18:33:47 UTC
Hello! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this project has been unmaintained for many years so I am closing this bug.